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Old 01-17-11, 10:09 PM   #16
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The Changes supposedly make me a Aries but I prefer being a Taurus.
I am in the same boat.
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Old 01-17-11, 10:43 PM   #17
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I always append "...in bed" to the fortunes I get.

You will find happiness and great wealth... in bed.

The less a fortune fits the situation the better.
I prefer "between the sheets". Sounds more poetic.

And I'm surprised it took this long for this thread to appear on subsim.
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Old 01-17-11, 11:19 PM   #18
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without reading the article, is it about the change in the axial tilt of the Earth from the time the zodiac was written down to current day?

Besides, the zodiac is demonstrably a load of horse**** even without this nail in its coffin.
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Old 01-18-11, 01:19 AM   #19
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I guess I'm a Pisces now. I always thought there was something fishy about my signs.
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Old 01-18-11, 02:36 AM   #20
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The can of worms has been opened. Soon this thread will be swimming in pun. Quick! To the diving bell! Before we flounder!
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Old 01-18-11, 09:09 AM   #21
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The can of worms has been opened. Soon this thread will be swimming in pun. Quick! To the diving bell! Before we flounder!
DON'T PANIC! There's room for everybody. You know the drill, salmon and children first...
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Old 01-18-11, 09:30 AM   #22
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I was a Sagittarius, but now appear to be this new-fangled Ophiuchus.

Traits (my annotations italicized):

-prone to change--I am a creature of habit
-instinctual and impulsive--Creature of habit
-jovial, good humored--I like to think so
-honest--Occasionally
-intellectual--I like to think so
-emotional and intuitive--Intuitive, but not particularly emotional
-passionate, powerful--Stop, you're making me blush
-hard to commit to lovers--Better not let the Mrs. read that one
-jealous--True. Envy is my most common deadly sin
-overly critical of things disliked--Absolutely
-cordial, clever, and creative--And a snappy dresser
-curious--What do you mean by that?
-exciting and magnetic--And my teeth do that 'ding' thing when I smile
-irresponsible and restless--No, I tend to be pretty on top of things
-have penetrating eyes--Look into my eyes.....
-able to tell people what they want/like to hear--You're doing just great, and that tie looks marvelous!
-passion for justice--Power to the people!
-imaginative--Maybe
-master of the written/spoken word--Just let me adjust my tie here
-procrastinator--No, I am almost compulsive about getting things done
-passionate lover--Doing the eyebrow thing right now
-like unlimited freedom, unusual ideas, and flirting--I have a feeling that this is refering to the above trait
-dislike surface information, being taken advantage of, demeaning work--The Morlocks will inherit the Earth
-like hidden causes, truth, involvement, persuasion, and being the undisputed best at something--Yes, I enjoy being good at things
-dislike disapproval, being safe/secure/confined, administrative details, and having my honesty doubted--No, I do not enjoy having nasty things said about me
-violent temper--No, quite the opposite, almost to a fault
-require praise--I do have bouts of insecurity
-defensive--See above
-am everything and it's opposite--I am what I am
-sexual magnetism--How you doin'?
-rebellious--You'll never stop the Cobras
- sarcastic--Not me. Never.
-tendency to discard friends when not 'useful'--I wonder what mookie has done for me lately
-secretive--Stop looking over here
-belong to multiple groups of friends--unable to be 'labeled'--Don't try to change me baby
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Old 01-18-11, 10:34 AM   #23
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Still a Pisces Have the fish shaped birthmark to prove it!
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Old 01-18-11, 11:05 AM   #24
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If you read the whole article, the whole thing is just a lot of meaningless hoo-ha over nothing, even to astrologers. The cited reasons for the "shift" don't affect Western astrology, which is what we're all talking about here.

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But this is an annoying red herring for astrologers.

They point out that this precession only affects "sidereal" astrology, a system commonly used in India and by other people with an interest in "Vedic" astrology. In this system signs do shift.

"People might be Aquarian under the tropical system but a Capricorn under the Vedic system," says astrologer Russell Grant.

But in the "tropical zodiac", the system used by Western astrologers, there are fixed sectors of the sky through which the movement of the sun, moon and planets is tracked to create the basis for horoscopes.

"The tropical zodiac is fixed and immovable. It is static - whatever happens to the Earth's axis."

These sectors of the sky use the equinoxes as reference points, not the constellations upon which the star signs are based.
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The suggestion of a 13th sign - "Ophiuchus" - is also dismissed by astrologers. They point out that the Babylonians consciously chose 12 signs.

In other systems there have also been signs for "Arachne" and "Cetus the Whale", notes Grant.

Both the effect of precession on the zodiac and the presence of a 13th sign are stories that crop up in the press every few years, Grant explains.
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But for all those people that believe in astrology or set some kind of lesser emotional store on the signs of the zodiac, they can rest easy. The Tauruses are still Taurus and the Arieses are still Aries.
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Old 01-18-11, 11:31 AM   #25
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13th sign
I smell a plot for a bad book and movie here.
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Old 01-18-11, 11:43 AM   #26
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So i'm now Ophiuchus , Sounds like some goblin name.

Rubbish! Somebody has nothing to do oh I know lets change the horoscope!
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Old 01-18-11, 11:51 AM   #27
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Two Virgos in the same relationship? Surely you jest. Even I'm not that crazy.
Is that not how this works? Frack! I'll bet it's like that damn Chinese zodiac with dogs being compatible with horses or monkeys or whatnot. With all the easy, one-size-fits-all, lame-ass excuses guys come up with to get women, you'd think one as old and popular as the zodiac would be more easy to use.

Okay, maybe virgos aren't compatible, but I am on a horse. What do you think of that?
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Old 01-18-11, 12:03 PM   #28
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Yep, in the Chinese zodiac, though, it's a 12-year (not month) cycle and typically the signs that are 4 years apart are considered most compatible with each other.

Rat, Dragon, and Monkey
Ox, Snake, and Rooster
Tiger, Horse, and Dog
Hare, Sheep, and Pig

It's further complicated by the fact that the Chinese year does not start on Jan 1 like the Western calendar year, and IIRC also by the fact that the actual start of Chinese New Year varies from year to year. So despite some of the charts so popular on Chinese restaurant placemats, being born in, say, 1964 does not mean one is a Dragon (which I most definitely am) - it depends on whether or not your birth "made the cut" for 1964 in terms of the Chinese calendar.

Edit: sorry, right, horse, very nice. OTOH you might want to rethink the assless chaps.
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Old 01-18-11, 03:35 PM   #29
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THAT'S VIRGO YOU KNUCKLEHEADS.
the word for virgo and virgin is one and the same in my country

went from pisces to aquarius, cant get away from water it seems
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Old 01-18-11, 03:45 PM   #30
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the word for virgo and virgin is one and the same in my country

went from pisces to aquarius, cant get away from water it seems
Oddly enough, Aquarius is not a Water sign. Its element is Air.

In the language of origin I'm pretty sure that 'virgo' does = 'virgin.'

I, however, do not.
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