SUBSIM Radio Room Forums



SUBSIM: The Web's #1 resource for all submarine & naval simulations since 1997

Go Back   SUBSIM Radio Room Forums > General > General Topics > PC Hardware/Software forum
Forget password? Reset here

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-06-11, 08:30 AM   #1
Spike88
Ocean Warrior
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 3,052
Downloads: 36
Uploads: 0
Default Ideal burn rate

So I bought a pack of 50 Memorex CD-R's, with a 52x transfer rate. I use them to burn music from Itunes, so I can listen to my music in the car. I could get one of those car output things for my Iphone, but in the long run this is easier.

My issue is that all 3 have 1 song that is messed up, this song is random, and in a random position(For example on one CD the song is at the end, on the current one the song is at beginning).
I figure this has to do with the fact I'm burning at maximum rate(52).

From what I understand the slower the burn, the better the data transfer. The slowest Possible is 1x(which will take an ungodly long time). Is there a speed faster than 1x that will guarantee a 100% complete copy?
__________________
Spike88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-11, 08:46 AM   #2
Gerald
SUBSIM Newsman
 
Gerald's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Close to sea
Posts: 24,254
Downloads: 553
Uploads: 0


I would say that it is not important, but you could run with a bit less if you feel uncertain about how the burn is, but my experience says that the quality of the music is good when playing, even if you burn with max speed
__________________
Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood.

Marie Curie





Gerald is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-11, 09:16 AM   #3
Herr-Berbunch
Kaiser Bill's batman
 
Herr-Berbunch's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: AN72
Posts: 13,203
Downloads: 76
Uploads: 0
Default

I don't know about the specifics, but I do it as fast as my drive will allow - but I NEVER touch my PC or go near it when it's burning, I disconnect my wifi and make sure no AV scans/updates are going to try to begin, and have as little running as I can get away with. I don't go near it for fear of banging it which used to be a case for bad burning in the olden days - don't know if it still counts?
__________________
Herr-Berbunch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-11, 11:50 AM   #4
stoppro
Sonar Guy
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: vero beach fl
Posts: 380
Downloads: 495
Uploads: 0


Default

I had the same problem.I set the burn to 12x on the itune burn window.I don't know if it makes a difference or not .but i have not had a song screw-up since.
__________________
win 10 64-msi-32gig cosair ddr4-ryzen9-5600evga gtx3060-corsair850watt-2-ssd 500 gig drives 1m2 1tig
stoppro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-11, 12:21 PM   #5
Sailor Steve
Eternal Patrol
 
Sailor Steve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: High in the mountains of Utah
Posts: 50,369
Downloads: 745
Uploads: 249


Default

I set if for the fastest speed, and have never noticed a problem. I also spend time on subsim while I'm burning, and have never had a problem.
__________________
“Never do anything you can't take back.”
—Rocky Russo
Sailor Steve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-11, 04:12 PM   #6
Arclight
Navy Seal
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese.
Posts: 8,467
Downloads: 53
Uploads: 10
Default

Depends on the quality of the discs and the quality of the writer. Also, specific models prefer specific brands of discs. I've always used Maxells and none have ever failed, while many other brands gave errors.

You can burn at full speed if it all comes together, but personally I don't go higher than 12x to 24x, 4x to 8x for DVDs. Avoids any issues.
__________________

Contritium praecedit superbia.
Arclight is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-11, 07:26 PM   #7
Penguin
Ocean Warrior
 
Penguin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Rheinische Republik
Posts: 3,322
Downloads: 92
Uploads: 0


Default

faster speed = more errors, it is as easy as this.

Disconnecting stuff doesn't help much, the data rates - even at high speed - which are transferred are laughable in today's terms, it was important some years ago however - especially when your drive had no buffer...

Mosts disc roms in computers have a much better error correction and a more precise laser than the usual cheap car players.
You may not notice the difference with your home equipment and not directly. In the long term you will have more errors with the discs which are burned fast.
For archiving important stuff, I would go down as far as 1X or 2X. Normal DVD's I burn at 4x/8x, cd's at 16x

And what arclight said: how disc/player brands play together is also important, especially regarding Blu-Ray's.
Penguin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-11, 07:32 PM   #8
Gerald
SUBSIM Newsman
 
Gerald's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Close to sea
Posts: 24,254
Downloads: 553
Uploads: 0


Faster speed = more errors,not always maybe 5-6 years ago and computer technology, and DVD + R is significant more flexible and more sustained an previous
__________________
Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood.

Marie Curie





Gerald is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-11, 12:57 AM   #9
Tessa
Grey Wolf
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: CG 96
Posts: 861
Downloads: 22
Uploads: 0
Default

Burner's and disc's are one of the few things left that "you get out of it what you paid for". If you have an old machine that's using 5400 rpm drives and only 1gb of RAM then things get a bit more important, with old machines with those level of specs I wouldn't burn anything faster than 24x cd, 1x dvd. It can be painful to pay for a spool of 25 dual layer Verbatim DVD + R's, though I have yet to coaster a Verbatim disc. Is it worth paying the extra $ for quality discs, imo there is no doubt. Though both my burners are capable of going faster, I never burn dvd's at more than 2x speed (which isn't too long of a wait really) and cd's at 40x.
Tessa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-11, 01:12 AM   #10
TLAM Strike
Navy Seal
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Rochester, New York
Posts: 8,633
Downloads: 29
Uploads: 6


Default

Definitely buy quality disks. I have bought dirt cheap DVDs and CDs from Big Lots stores and 4 out of 5 disks don't burn correctly.
__________________


TLAM Strike is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:30 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1995- 2025 Subsim®
"Subsim" is a registered trademark, all rights reserved.