La Spezia Weirdness

Skubber · 10-20-05, 02:29 PM

Checked into La Spezia to repair from damages after crossing through Gibralter, and somehow overnight my sub and watch crew were buried in concrete!

I think I have seen this bug somewhere before, but it was still very strange. (Or if its not a bug, those Italian construction workers in La Spezia are building up the base way too fast!)

Concrete must be fresh because these guys are still wiggling.

These boys really do not look happy.

Does anyone know if the latest harbor traffic mod fixes this?

Skubber · 10-20-05, 02:45 PM

That was just the finale to my weird journey to La Spezia.

The reason we checked in there in the first place was because our attack periscope, observation periscope, and watch tower were all listed as destroyed.

Oddly enough, I could go up on the tower and use the UZO, but when I tried to move the crew or officers, they would not go.

Then as we made our was to the Italian port for repairs (under time compression) somebody ordered the watch crew to go on duty. The next thing I knew, all four of them were up there listed as dead! The weather was calm, we were not under attack. (Or maybe they were under attack and didn't report it???? and becuase they didn't report it the TC didn't drop to a slower rate????)

Whatever the cause of the mysterious deaths, we took the men into the forward torpedo room and "buried" them.

But the next day the same thing happened again!
Four more deaths. The crew were getting scared, and so I guess they wisely decided not to go up there anymore.

But as I said before, in the end we were all entombed in concrete in the harbor, and thus was the very strange ending of my latest u-boat career.

Oberon · 10-20-05, 03:19 PM

Upset someone in the Mafia did we?

panthercules · 10-20-05, 09:16 PM

Looks like you had the misfortune to be part of Italy's "La Spezia Experiment", the little-known sequel to the Americans' Philadelphia Experiment

Heffalump · 10-21-05, 07:32 AM

Brings back eerie memories I have of visiting huge, derelict u-boat shelter on the River Weser in northern Germany. It's still standing partly because the bodies of dozens of forced labourers are supposedly entombed in the concrete....

Kissaki · 10-21-05, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Heffalump

Brings back eerie memories I have of visiting huge, derelict u-boat shelter on the River Weser in northern Germany. It's still standing partly because the bodies of dozens of forced labourers are supposedly entombed in the concrete....

I doubt that. Corpses would seriously weaken the concrete by becoming hollow gas bubbles. There are far better way of disposing with bodies.

Skubber · 10-21-05, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Heffalump

Brings back eerie memories I have of visiting huge, derelict u-boat shelter on the River Weser in northern Germany ... dozens of forced labourers are supposedly entombed in the concrete....

At least they don't have their heads sticking up out of the concrete! Something about this image really bothers me ... football practice anyone?

Heffalump · 10-21-05, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Kissaki

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Originally Posted by Heffalump

Brings back eerie memories I have of visiting huge, derelict u-boat shelter on the River Weser in northern Germany. It's still standing partly because the bodies of dozens of forced labourers are supposedly entombed in the concrete....

I doubt that. Corpses would seriously weaken the concrete by becoming hollow gas bubbles. There are far better way of disposing with bodies.

The bunker in question is called "U-Boot-Bunkerwerft Valentin". It is on the Weser in northern Germany and was built between 43 and 45. It is a huge and extremely terrible looking place. Especially if you get a chance to peer into the interior.

Perhaps knowing the history made it seem worse. Some ten thousand slave labourers built the place. Four thousand died on the spot while working.

I've family living in the area and they say the locals have always claimed people were entombed in the walls during construction...

Rubini · 10-21-05, 09:31 AM

Skubber,

I guess that in HT mod you will start your patrol on the correct place. But tell me what version you are running and what mods. Maybe it's a mistake mine on the LND layer.

Rubini.

Heffalump · 10-21-05, 09:57 AM

I think you mean Skubber. I was just threadjacking....

Rubini · 10-21-05, 12:11 PM

Yes, sorry...the reply is for Skubber.

Rubini.

Skubber · 10-21-05, 03:53 PM

Hi Rubini,

I'm fairly certain it is not your mod. I was running the HT145c standalone mod when this happened. (That's a terrific mod, by the way! One of my favourites.)

But to test, I uninstalled the mod, and I still had this strange restart. I'm guessing if you start a mission in La Spezia under the 1.4b patch you are going to have this illogical starting position. (I haven't tested with a completely unmodded game, though.)

I am going to install the newer HT mod anyway, and I was curious to know if it would include a fix for this bug.

BaronVonSchnitzel · 10-21-05, 08:32 PM

The horror...the horror

Enfilade · 10-21-05, 10:54 PM

La Spezia... I knew I never wanted to go there. Now my decision to stay away is set in concrete.....

MobyGrape · 10-22-05, 12:16 AM

Not a Bug, A Mafia tried and true method when dealing with crews that don't cooperate

10-20-05, 02:29 PM	#1
Skubber Officer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Rochester, NY, USA Posts: 239 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	La Spezia Weirdness Checked into La Spezia to repair from damages after crossing through Gibralter, and somehow overnight my sub and watch crew were buried in concrete! I think I have seen this bug somewhere before, but it was still very strange. (Or if its not a bug, those Italian construction workers in La Spezia are building up the base way too fast!) Concrete must be fresh because these guys are still wiggling. These boys really do not look happy. Does anyone know if the latest harbor traffic mod fixes this? __________________ "I wish to have no Connection with any Ship that does not Sail fast for I intend to go in harm's way." - Captain John Paul Jones, 1778

10-20-05, 02:45 PM	#2
Skubber Officer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Rochester, NY, USA Posts: 239 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	That was just the finale to my weird journey to La Spezia. The reason we checked in there in the first place was because our attack periscope, observation periscope, and watch tower were all listed as destroyed. Oddly enough, I could go up on the tower and use the UZO, but when I tried to move the crew or officers, they would not go. Then as we made our was to the Italian port for repairs (under time compression) somebody ordered the watch crew to go on duty. The next thing I knew, all four of them were up there listed as dead! The weather was calm, we were not under attack. (Or maybe they were under attack and didn't report it???? and becuase they didn't report it the TC didn't drop to a slower rate????) Whatever the cause of the mysterious deaths, we took the men into the forward torpedo room and "buried" them. But the next day the same thing happened again! Four more deaths. The crew were getting scared, and so I guess they wisely decided not to go up there anymore. But as I said before, in the end we were all entombed in concrete in the harbor, and thus was the very strange ending of my latest u-boat career. __________________ "I wish to have no Connection with any Ship that does not Sail fast for I intend to go in harm's way." - Captain John Paul Jones, 1778

10-20-05, 09:16 PM	#4
panthercules The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,336 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Looks like you had the misfortune to be part of Italy's "La Spezia Experiment", the little-known sequel to the Americans' Philadelphia Experiment __________________

10-21-05, 03:53 PM	#12
Skubber Officer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Rochester, NY, USA Posts: 239 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	Hi Rubini, I'm fairly certain it is not your mod. I was running the HT145c standalone mod when this happened. (That's a terrific mod, by the way! One of my favourites.) But to test, I uninstalled the mod, and I still had this strange restart. I'm guessing if you start a mission in La Spezia under the 1.4b patch you are going to have this illogical starting position. (I haven't tested with a completely unmodded game, though.) I am going to install the newer HT mod anyway, and I was curious to know if it would include a fix for this bug. __________________ "I wish to have no Connection with any Ship that does not Sail fast for I intend to go in harm's way." - Captain John Paul Jones, 1778

10-21-05, 08:32 PM	#13
BaronVonSchnitzel Helmsman Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Sacramento, California Posts: 106 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The horror...the horror __________________ \"There is water on the bottom of the ocean\" - David Byrne, Talking Heads

10-20-05, 03:19 PM	#3
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Upset someone in the Mafia did we?

10-21-05, 07:32 AM	#5
Heffalump A-ganger Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 77 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Brings back eerie memories I have of visiting huge, derelict u-boat shelter on the River Weser in northern Germany. It's still standing partly because the bodies of dozens of forced labourers are supposedly entombed in the concrete....

10-21-05, 09:31 AM	#9
Rubini Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: São Paulo Brazil Posts: 2,728 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	Skubber, I guess that in HT mod you will start your patrol on the correct place. But tell me what version you are running and what mods. Maybe it's a mistake mine on the LND layer. Rubini.

10-21-05, 09:57 AM	#10
Heffalump A-ganger Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 77 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I think you mean Skubber. I was just threadjacking....

10-21-05, 12:11 PM	#11
Rubini Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: São Paulo Brazil Posts: 2,728 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	Yes, sorry...the reply is for Skubber. Rubini.

10-21-05, 10:54 PM	#14
Enfilade Gunner Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 91 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	La Spezia... I knew I never wanted to go there. Now my decision to stay away is set in concrete..... __________________

10-22-05, 12:16 AM	#15
MobyGrape Frogman Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mid Pacific Posts: 292 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Not a Bug, A Mafia tried and true method when dealing with crews that don't cooperate