NKorea threatens SKorea with nuclear war

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Don't say we haven't invaded Libya because they don't have oil... they do!

Actually that's a very good point

[the_tyrant]

Originally Posted by FIREWALL

Hey !!! Let's not talk about sexual practices here.

its the internet
I'm sure somebody is turned on by Kim Jiong Il

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by the_tyrant

its the internet
I'm sure somebody is turned on by Kim Jiong Il

The only one that springs to mind is the individual in the centre.

[TarJak]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Don't say we haven't invaded Libya because they don't have oil... they do!

So what are you waiting for?

[Gerald]

The top U.S. military officer said Monday that the danger of war or hostilities on the Korean peninsula is rising, as North Korea warned that cooperation between its southern neighbor and the United States could trigger a nuclear war.

Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told troops in Baghdad that North Korea has upped the ante in its aggression against South Korea -- a pattern he said is tied to preparations for Kim Jong Il to pass power to his son.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...ean-peninsula/



Note:Update post, Published December 13, 2010

[Jimbuna]

Better start stocking up on rice for my curries then...there could soon be a shortage

[Gerald]

A well delivered advice,

[Castout]

Originally Posted by joegrundman

what does that mean?

I swear I checked the dictionary but couldn't find anything too

Originally Posted by Oberon

"GET ON WITH IT!"

See? Even Oberon agree.

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Better start stocking up on rice for my curries then...there could soon be a shortage

Don't worry most of your rice probably comes from South East Asia and the only people threatening war on that region are some of the crackpots hanging around outside the VA.

Originally Posted by TarJak

So what are you waiting for?

Well because Libya as you may or may not be aware is located in a desert, and not just any desert but the Sahara. Sahara is the Arabic word for 'desert', which should tell you a lot since the Arabs came from another desert. So when they walked out of their desert and found the Sahara they said "damn now this is a desert!"

... and damn it we are tired of fighting in deserts!! and these deserts have women who dress in bedsheets and they don't serve booze there! The moment they find oil in a tropically refreshing place with hot women and those drinks with the little umbrella in them we are so going to invade them!

[the_tyrant]

Originally Posted by TarJak

So what are you waiting for?

Using video game terms(Victoria 2), the Infamy(BB) of the United states is rising
they have to wait a few years

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

... and damn it we are tired of fighting in deserts!! and these deserts have women who dress in bedsheets and they don't serve booze there! The moment they find oil in a tropically refreshing place with hot women and those drinks with the little umbrella in them we are so going to invade them!

[Gerald]

Interesting talk,

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by gimpy117

north korea has nukes?

The first one was a fizzle which means it only achieved criticality and not super criticality.

The second one suffered from pre-ignition which meant that parts of the pit went super critical but too soon.

The north koreans are still 0 for 2.

They are learning the cruel fact that the theory of nuclear weapons is easy to understand, the practical application is much more difficult.

[vienna]

Regarding Libya, if an attack on Libya were to be launched by the US, NATO, or any other western-leaning power, Israel would undoubtedly be the main victim of the aftermath. Islamic nations like Iran would use the attacks as an excuse to launch "reprisals" against Israel since they cannot attack the western powers directly. Add to this the likelyhood of a possible oil embargo by the exporting arab nations and there are few upsides to the situation. Still, I would very much enjoy seeing Gaddafi receive what has long been coming.

As far as North Korea goes, when the invasion of Iraq started, an anti-war co-worker of mine at the time argued why the U.S. was fighting a war against Saddam and not Kim Jong-Il. I asked her what country was directly on North Korea's northern border. She actually had to look it up on Google since she had no idea. When she saw it was China, she then asked what that had to do with not invading NK. I then had to breifly explain the history of the Korean War and the intervention by China when NK was being knocked back on its heels. China may not particularly like Kim and his madness, but they like even less the idea of a unified Korea with a western (U.S.) leading government directly on its border. China also likes having the NK sideshow to distract the rest of the world from its own actions.

Don't discount NK's ability to deliver firepower to the South. Although they are still lacking in intercontinental strike capability, they are very up to date on short range missile technology. NK is very adept at reverse-engineering weapon systems in general and missile systems in particular. They now provide client countries and groups like Hamas, etc. with knock-offs of some newer missiles. They don't need a big ICBM to reach South Korea, just a good long range cruise missle and they have a lot of those on hand.

But again, as with Gaddafi, I would love to see someone drop a nice U.S. cruise missile on Kim's pompadour..

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by vienna

Regarding Libya, if an attack on Libya were to be launched by the US, NATO, or any other western-leaning power, Israel would undoubtedly be the main victim of the aftermath. Islamic nations like Iran would use the attacks as an excuse to launch "reprisals" against Israel since they cannot attack the western powers directly. Add to this the likelyhood of a possible oil embargo by the exporting arab nations and there are few upsides to the situation. Still, I would very much enjoy seeing Gaddafi receive what has long been coming.

Such reprisals would just give the Israelis an excuse to clean house across the region. The Arab militaries in the region have advanced in capabilities very little since the 1980s, except for Egypt and Saudi. They have picked up a couple fancy missiles here or there but they have very little to stop the IAF from just bombing them at will.

Based on those Wikileaks cables Saudi wants to see a lot of these terrorist groups in the region gone and Iran dealt with, so they might talk a lot but not do anything.

Don't discount NK's ability to deliver firepower to the South. Although they are still lacking in intercontinental strike capability, they are very up to date on short range missile technology. NK is very adept at reverse-engineering weapon systems in general and missile systems in particular. They now provide client countries and groups like Hamas, etc. with knock-offs of some newer missiles. They don't need a big ICBM to reach South Korea, just a good long range cruise missle and they have a lot of those on hand.

North Korean's cruise missiles are decades obsolete. Their best indigenous cruise missile is the KN-01, but it just a turbojet powered silkworm with a range of only 100 km. Some PRC missiles they might be armed with (like the HY-2) have a range of 200 km, but those are still just silkworms with better engines. If your a middle east group like Hamas want cruise missiles you got to deal with Iran, which is building copies of Chinese missiles (except for the Ra'ad which is a North Korean type super silkworm).

My friends and I were just discussing this in how Iran's semi-submersibles came from North Korea armed with 324mm torpedoes instead of a light ASM like the C-701. Simply North Korea has no SSMs smaller than a Silkworm (which is huge for a ASM).