Docked ships at enemy ports(confused)

wetwarev7 · 10-17-05, 02:38 PM

Ok, I can't seem to find any sitting ducks when I go sneaking into enemy ports. Is there any port traffic in enemy and neutral ports in vanilla SH3? Does RuB add them? I know Harbor Traffic mod adds traffic to friendly ports, but does it add to enemy ports as well? And is it only a few ports, or do all ports have traffic?

-confused

Dowly · 10-17-05, 02:39 PM

I`m not sure where does the HT mod put the docked, on my last patrol I went to Scapa and found it to be empty...

wetwarev7 · 10-17-05, 02:42 PM

On my second patrol, (1939) I stopped by every port I on the northen and eastern side on England, and no ships. Am I just unlucky? I hear other people talk about seeing ships, but I can't seem to find one in port...

Dowly · 10-17-05, 02:44 PM

Well I use the lite version of HT, I think the heavy version adds more ships to enemy ports.

IÂ´ve seen 1 docked ship in enemy port in the whole time I`ve played. And it was a coastal merchant SURROUNDED with subnet, I donÂ´t have an idea how the hell did he get that ship there!

Rubini · 10-17-05, 02:58 PM

Hi guys,

HT mod mainly only adds ships to friendly or neutrals ports. But I work on some enemy ports too: North Africa, Mediterranean and Russian ports have ships on them. If i have time I will do a complete work on the other enemy ports too. It's a time consuming task to be made correctly...

Rubini.

wetwarev7 · 10-17-05, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rubini

Hi guys,

HT mod mainly only adds ships to friendly or neutrals ports. But I work on some enemy ports too: North Africa, Mediterranean and Russian ports have ships on them. If i have time I will do a complete work on the other enemy ports too. It's a time consuming task to be made correctly...

Rubini.

That'd be great, Rubini!

Even just a 50% chance of seeing a ship in port would make it worthwhile to sneak in......

Ula Jolly · 10-17-05, 04:44 PM

I believe there is a serious lack of docked ships. Bergen, for instance, would be near flooded with fishing vessels and smaller cargo ships. Was Scapa Flow really ever EMPTY? I mean, not a single destroyer or anything?? It's the native life that makes visiting ports truly interesting!

Twitchy · 10-17-05, 04:48 PM

Dover, baby. I went into Dover and there were no less than SIX sitting ducks. I fired a full spread, but my torps impacted against the bottom of the sea because the damned ships were docked so shallow.

10-17-05, 06:02 PM

I went into Gibraltar, only took me 15 hours after being hounded, and found 1 DD at port, and TWO SUNK (C2 or C3)SHIPS in their berths

D'oh!

Lane · 10-17-05, 08:59 PM

I moved into the Gibraltar straits at P-dept silent running the seagulls
were flying all around. Warships screws all around me was daytime
I could see DD's in distance behine and in front of me. sonar man was
going crazy with reports Then I saw a convoy of Merchants and supply
ships moving west and a big passenger Liner Hit th Z key to secure from
silent running and that was "it" I heard the sonar ping and we been dected
"Sir" So I fired 4 fish in hurry toward convoy hit the back of passenger Liner but the DD's were all over me I lost Boat.
That's my sea story about Gibraltar

Lane

oRGy · 10-18-05, 07:30 AM

A thing to note is that having ports swarming with realistic amounts of ships would slow the framerate to a crawl, since SH3 is so crap at calculating them.

It's clearly much more realistic to have the masts on the C3 looking correct and to have nice reflections than to have ports with historical (or any) traffic, after all.

panthercules · 10-18-05, 08:38 PM

Even if historic levels of shipping in the ports would be too much strain on the game engine/our PCs, it sure would be nice to have at least some (even just 1-3) ships in the ports - I found myself right outside of Aberdeen last night - first, I sat submerged just outside the port all day long, but there was no sign of traffic in or out of the port all day, so just for the heck of it I decided to head in after nightfall and take a look - absolutely nothing anywhere in the port

I had been shut out on the entire month-long patrol up to then, so I was really hoping to find something in there to spend my last couple of torps on - at least I found a coastal freighter somewhat further down off the coast of England in a rare moment of reasonable weather (only 6m/s winds) and gunned it to death (after wasting yet another dud torp on her - story of my whole patrol in a nutshell), so I managed to avoid posting a big goose egg on the board back at base

wetwarev7 · 10-19-05, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twitchy

Dover, baby. I went into Dover and there were no less than SIX sitting ducks. I fired a full spread, but my torps impacted against the bottom of the sea because the damned ships were docked so shallow.

Is this with vanilla SH3, or did a mod add those? I'm just trying to figure out if I'm just wasting my time sneaking into ports. So far, 5 ports, no sitting ducks.....

TDK1044 · 10-19-05, 01:10 PM

I found 4 ships docked at Portsmouth and I'm currently running patch 1.4 with no mods.

Skubber · 10-19-05, 02:23 PM

With the heavy traffic mod, I saw 0 ships in Scapa Flow, excpet for the numerous destroyers guarding the entrance.

And man I sweated to get in there!

(But I do love the traffic mod, anyway. One of my favs.)

10-17-05, 02:38 PM	#1
wetwarev7 Grey Wolf Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Deep Waters Posts: 871 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	Docked ships at enemy ports(confused) Ok, I can't seem to find any sitting ducks when I go sneaking into enemy ports. Is there any port traffic in enemy and neutral ports in vanilla SH3? Does RuB add them? I know Harbor Traffic mod adds traffic to friendly ports, but does it add to enemy ports as well? And is it only a few ports, or do all ports have traffic? -confused __________________ Guess I should change my sig since SH5 has an offline mode now

10-17-05, 02:42 PM	#3
wetwarev7 Grey Wolf Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Deep Waters Posts: 871 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	On my second patrol, (1939) I stopped by every port I on the northen and eastern side on England, and no ships. Am I just unlucky? I hear other people talk about seeing ships, but I can't seem to find one in port... __________________ Guess I should change my sig since SH5 has an offline mode now

10-17-05, 04:44 PM	#7
Ula Jolly Samurai Navy Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 567 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I believe there is a serious lack of docked ships. Bergen, for instance, would be near flooded with fishing vessels and smaller cargo ships. Was Scapa Flow really ever EMPTY? I mean, not a single destroyer or anything?? It's the native life that makes visiting ports truly interesting! __________________ I shall punish yee, landlubber! C'mere for spankings and popsicles!

10-18-05, 08:38 PM	#12
panthercules The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,336 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Even if historic levels of shipping in the ports would be too much strain on the game engine/our PCs, it sure would be nice to have at least some (even just 1-3) ships in the ports - I found myself right outside of Aberdeen last night - first, I sat submerged just outside the port all day long, but there was no sign of traffic in or out of the port all day, so just for the heck of it I decided to head in after nightfall and take a look - absolutely nothing anywhere in the port I had been shut out on the entire month-long patrol up to then, so I was really hoping to find something in there to spend my last couple of torps on - at least I found a coastal freighter somewhat further down off the coast of England in a rare moment of reasonable weather (only 6m/s winds) and gunned it to death (after wasting yet another dud torp on her - story of my whole patrol in a nutshell), so I managed to avoid posting a big goose egg on the board back at base __________________

10-19-05, 02:23 PM	#15
Skubber Officer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Rochester, NY, USA Posts: 239 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	With the heavy traffic mod, I saw 0 ships in Scapa Flow, excpet for the numerous destroyers guarding the entrance. And man I sweated to get in there! (But I do love the traffic mod, anyway. One of my favs.) __________________ "I wish to have no Connection with any Ship that does not Sail fast for I intend to go in harm's way." - Captain John Paul Jones, 1778

10-17-05, 02:39 PM	#2
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	I`m not sure where does the HT mod put the docked, on my last patrol I went to Scapa and found it to be empty...

10-17-05, 02:44 PM	#4
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Well I use the lite version of HT, I think the heavy version adds more ships to enemy ports. IÂ´ve seen 1 docked ship in enemy port in the whole time I`ve played. And it was a coastal merchant SURROUNDED with subnet, I donÂ´t have an idea how the hell did he get that ship there!

10-17-05, 02:58 PM	#5
Rubini Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: São Paulo Brazil Posts: 2,728 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	Hi guys, HT mod mainly only adds ships to friendly or neutrals ports. But I work on some enemy ports too: North Africa, Mediterranean and Russian ports have ships on them. If i have time I will do a complete work on the other enemy ports too. It's a time consuming task to be made correctly... Rubini.

10-17-05, 04:48 PM	#8
Twitchy Navy Dude Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 177 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Dover, baby. I went into Dover and there were no less than SIX sitting ducks. I fired a full spread, but my torps impacted against the bottom of the sea because the damned ships were docked so shallow.

10-17-05, 06:02 PM	#9
von Buelow Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I went into Gibraltar, only took me 15 hours after being hounded, and found 1 DD at port, and TWO SUNK (C2 or C3)SHIPS in their berths D'oh!

10-17-05, 08:59 PM	#10
Lane Subsim Diehard Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Southwest , Indiana USA Posts: 380 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	I moved into the Gibraltar straits at P-dept silent running the seagulls were flying all around. Warships screws all around me was daytime I could see DD's in distance behine and in front of me. sonar man was going crazy with reports Then I saw a convoy of Merchants and supply ships moving west and a big passenger Liner Hit th Z key to secure from silent running and that was "it" I heard the sonar ping and we been dected "Sir" So I fired 4 fish in hurry toward convoy hit the back of passenger Liner but the DD's were all over me I lost Boat. That's my sea story about Gibraltar Lane

10-18-05, 07:30 AM	#11
oRGy Crusty Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 648 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	A thing to note is that having ports swarming with realistic amounts of ships would slow the framerate to a crawl, since SH3 is so crap at calculating them. It's clearly much more realistic to have the masts on the C3 looking correct and to have nice reflections than to have ports with historical (or any) traffic, after all.

10-19-05, 01:10 PM	#14
TDK1044 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 2,674 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	I found 4 ships docked at Portsmouth and I'm currently running patch 1.4 with no mods.