WWII Roadtrip in europe - Page 2

AVGWarhawk · 11-23-10, 09:38 AM

A visit to a concentration camp might be in order for you. My parents visited two and came out much different persons when they exited the camps. My folks were kids in WW2 but had older brothers in the war. The war was very real to them and visiting the camps made my mom understand why her brother fought and died over Kiel Germany.

Sailor Steve · 11-23-10, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by McBeck

I cant see that theres anything left in Willhelmshaven...

That's because there never were any pens at Wilhelmshaven.

Penguin · 11-23-10, 12:36 PM

Oh, I forgot about Wilhemshaven, they have a Seehund there at the navy museum and also a type 205. http://www.marinemuseum.de/ However they hate foreigners, as the page is only in german

(You'll find the way description in the lower right corner, under "Anfahrt")

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

That's because there never were any pens at Wilhelmshaven.

True that! Actually the big sections for the Wilhelmshaven u-boats were bulit in the Hamburg pens.

McBeck · 11-24-10, 02:20 AM

Thanks guys!

Lots of great information

Betonov · 11-24-10, 05:00 AM

Yugoslav partisan resistance movement is a must if you're going anywhere near Slovenia, but as all guerilla's there's not much to see. A statue here a commemorative plaque there (about two per street).
Bolnica Franja (Franja hospital), a field hospital used by the partisans

Completely rebuilt after it was destroyed by severe flooding 3 years ago

and old german bunkers still scatered around the countryside

PhantomLord · 11-24-10, 06:29 AM

First:
If you already are in germany there´s another bunker you should visit:

Bunker "Valentin" - Bremen / Farge

A planned dockyard for the final assembly of type XXI sections. This is pure concreted megalomania...
Dont know if they do the tour in english too. And you´ve to hand out your passport for the time in there. This is still german army territory (material depot 2)

They will leave within the next time.

Hope this bunker will survive. Funding of security and maintenance is not secured now...

Second:
Technikmuseum Sinsheim and Speyer - a huge and well preserved collection of (not only) WWII tanks, planes and much more.

Fint it Here - Speyer and Here - Sinsheim

momo55 · 11-24-10, 08:05 AM

http://www.warmuseums.nl/gal/058gal.htm
(click " see map " to find other intresting locations in Belgium)

"Domein Raversijde" is located between Oostende and Middelkerke

And in Zeebrugge you can visit a russian foxtrot submarine :
http://seafront.be/foxtrot.asp

McBeck · 11-24-10, 09:04 AM

Lots of good stuff

McBeck · 11-24-10, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

That's because there never were any pens at Wilhelmshaven.

DOH!

sharkbit · 11-24-10, 11:31 AM

Oradour sur Glane near Limoges, France.
Remains of a village where the inhabitants were massacred by units of the 2nd SS Panzer Division in June 1944.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oradour_sur_glane

As others have said, a visit to a concentration camp is worth it. They can be a sobering experience.

PhantomLord · 11-25-10, 06:17 AM

Peenemünde!

The biggest factory and research facility for special weapons like the V1 and V2.
The museum inside the old coal power plant is huge. The exhibiton guides you through the ages from WWII, first space craft´s like the russian "Sputnik" till now. Outside are some aircrafts, helo´s, rockets, a missile speedboat "Tarantul" and a soviet SSG Juliett-class....

You really need a whole day there

Peenemünde military test site

Red Heat · 11-25-10, 06:48 AM

Hello

I thing personaly that trip its a outstanding idea...but there is a lot to see in your voyage. And another place witch have a Historical interest and miltary interest ist Gibraltar!

I have ben there a few years a go...and i love it, and i hope one day be able to return there but with more more time avaiable...

The military history of Gibraltar during World War II:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militar...g_World_War_II

The history of Gibraltar:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Gibraltar

And Gibraltar today:

http://www.gibnet.com/tourist/index.htm

http://www.gibraltar.gov.uk/main.php

Enjoy

Red Heat · 11-25-10, 07:11 AM

There is another place witch i visit some years a go witch is located in the British channel islands, Jersey Island and its about the Hohlgangsanlage 8. its about a German Undergound Hospital build by the German forces when they captured the channel islands.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hohlgangsanlage_8

And some pictures:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ca...lgangsanlage_8

Enjoy!

Torvald Von Mansee · 11-25-10, 08:32 PM

Have you considered checking out WW1 sites?

Well, there is probably something to see from just about every era for where you're traveling,

saltysplash · 11-28-10, 10:47 AM

Theres also the Atlantic Wall museum in Oostende Belgium and i think again at Cap Gris Nez

11-23-10, 09:38 AM	#16
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,256 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	A visit to a concentration camp might be in order for you. My parents visited two and came out much different persons when they exited the camps. My folks were kids in WW2 but had older brothers in the war. The war was very real to them and visiting the camps made my mom understand why her brother fought and died over Kiel Germany. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

11-24-10, 02:20 AM	#19
McBeck Admiral Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,027 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	Thanks guys! Lots of great information __________________ "I like subcommanders...they dont have time for bull**!" Proud member of the Subsim army of zombies Becks website

11-24-10, 06:29 AM	#21
PhantomLord XO Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 408 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	First: If you already are in germany there´s another bunker you should visit: Bunker "Valentin" - Bremen / Farge A planned dockyard for the final assembly of type XXI sections. This is pure concreted megalomania... Dont know if they do the tour in english too. And you´ve to hand out your passport for the time in there. This is still german army territory (material depot 2) They will leave within the next time. Hope this bunker will survive. Funding of security and maintenance is not secured now... Second: Technikmuseum Sinsheim and Speyer - a huge and well preserved collection of (not only) WWII tanks, planes and much more. Fint it Here - Speyer and Here - Sinsheim __________________ ~^~ War does not determine who is right - only who is left. ~^~

11-24-10, 08:05 AM	#22
momo55 Frogman Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: belgium Posts: 297 Downloads: 125 Uploads: 0	http://www.warmuseums.nl/gal/058gal.htm (click " see map " to find other intresting locations in Belgium) "Domein Raversijde" is located between Oostende and Middelkerke And in Zeebrugge you can visit a russian foxtrot submarine : http://seafront.be/foxtrot.asp __________________ Our greatest glory is not in never failing , but in rising up every time we fail . Last edited by momo55; 11-24-10 at 08:56 AM.

11-24-10, 09:04 AM	#23
McBeck Admiral Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,027 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	Lots of good stuff __________________ "I like subcommanders...they dont have time for bull**!" Proud member of the Subsim army of zombies Becks website

11-24-10, 05:00 AM	#20
Betonov Navy Seal Join Date: May 2009 Location: Slovenia Posts: 8,647 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	Yugoslav partisan resistance movement is a must if you're going anywhere near Slovenia, but as all guerilla's there's not much to see. A statue here a commemorative plaque there (about two per street). Bolnica Franja (Franja hospital), a field hospital used by the partisans Completely rebuilt after it was destroyed by severe flooding 3 years ago and old german bunkers still scatered around the countryside

11-24-10, 11:31 AM	#25
sharkbit The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,529 Downloads: 334 Uploads: 0	Oradour sur Glane near Limoges, France. Remains of a village where the inhabitants were massacred by units of the 2nd SS Panzer Division in June 1944. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oradour_sur_glane As others have said, a visit to a concentration camp is worth it. They can be a sobering experience. __________________ “Prejudice is blind. There will always be someone who says you aren’t welcome at the table. Stop apologizing for who you are and using all your energy trying to change their minds. Yes, you will lose friends, maybe even family. But you will gain your self-respect. You will know your worth. Once you have that, nothing can stop you.”

11-25-10, 06:17 AM	#26
PhantomLord XO Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 408 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	Peenemünde! The biggest factory and research facility for special weapons like the V1 and V2. The museum inside the old coal power plant is huge. The exhibiton guides you through the ages from WWII, first space craft´s like the russian "Sputnik" till now. Outside are some aircrafts, helo´s, rockets, a missile speedboat "Tarantul" and a soviet SSG Juliett-class.... You really need a whole day there Peenemünde military test site __________________ ~^~ War does not determine who is right - only who is left. ~^~

11-25-10, 06:48 AM	#27
Red Heat Ace of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Portugal Posts: 1,093 Downloads: 267 Uploads: 0	Hello I thing personaly that trip its a outstanding idea...but there is a lot to see in your voyage. And another place witch have a Historical interest and miltary interest ist Gibraltar! I have ben there a few years a go...and i love it, and i hope one day be able to return there but with more more time avaiable... The military history of Gibraltar during World War II: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militar...g_World_War_II The history of Gibraltar: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Gibraltar And Gibraltar today: http://www.gibnet.com/tourist/index.htm http://www.gibraltar.gov.uk/main.php Enjoy __________________ "There is three kinds of man: the living, the death, and those who are at Sea." Plato

11-25-10, 07:11 AM	#28
Red Heat Ace of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Portugal Posts: 1,093 Downloads: 267 Uploads: 0	There is another place witch i visit some years a go witch is located in the British channel islands, Jersey Island and its about the Hohlgangsanlage 8. its about a German Undergound Hospital build by the German forces when they captured the channel islands. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hohlgangsanlage_8 And some pictures: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ca...lgangsanlage_8 Enjoy! __________________ "There is three kinds of man: the living, the death, and those who are at Sea." Plato

11-25-10, 08:32 PM	#29
Torvald Von Mansee Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: CA4528 Posts: 1,693 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Have you considered checking out WW1 sites? Well, there is probably something to see from just about every era for where you're traveling, __________________ "You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you" - Leon Trotsky

11-28-10, 10:47 AM	#30
saltysplash A-ganger Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Uxbridge Posts: 72 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	Theres also the Atlantic Wall museum in Oostende Belgium and i think again at Cap Gris Nez __________________ "What in the name of Swansea is going on here? Ive only just mended that sofa and here you are sitting on it" "are you sure you wish to change from Blue alert to Red sir? it will mean having to change the bulb"