US Republicans seize lower house

[Skybird]

The atmosphere has been poisened like I cannot remember it ever has been the case during my adult lifetime since I started to observe politics. Plenty of hate, sheer hate, from the tea party - no way to call some of the campaign stunts any different than that.

That is no good mixture to expect compromise. I think both parties will try to be very and the tea party will try to be extremely destructive, for the sake of destruction done to the political oppon... - no, the political enemy.

I wonder if even Bush was so polariisng to the US society. I think not.

However, the Dems were sort of lucky. I expected them to lose the senate, too. Senate is no more filibusterproof, too (60 of 100 are needed to prevent it, or am I mistaken?)

O'Donell failed to win. Good for the Reps in two years. They really need to start sorting her likes out. But I think, more relaistic is to expect that the Reps will start to rip themselves apart between tea-party and non-tea party. The first will try to take over control in the Rep party.

What it all means? A further degeneration of political culture, where the cause to claim power will justify EVERY means. Would one have thought that that could even be imagined: a further degeneration? It seems the hole is bottomless, so is the fall into it endless.

[SteamWake]

Quit looking through those media polarized glasses.

The tea party is not the party of hate as it is commonly portrayed. Yes there is indeed anger. But anger and hate are two different things.

What exactly is so extreme and hatefull about wanting fiscal responsability?

[August]

Originally Posted by SteamWake

Quit looking through those media polarized glasses.

The tea party is not the party of hate as it is commonly portrayed. Yes there is indeed anger. But anger and hate are two different things.

What exactly is so extreme and hatefull about wanting fiscal responsability?

Shows you just how effective the lefts character assassination efforts really are. They can't address the Tea Parties entire reason for existence because after all who can argue against fiscal responsibility?, so they concentrate on personal attacks instead and they are quite good at it.

[AVGWarhawk]

So I need to ask, is the Obama Presidency a failed social studies experiment?

[Gerald]

As the 2010 midterm elections wrap up, TIME looks at the weirdest, wildest and most telling moments of a memorable campaign season.

http://www.time.com/time/specials/pa...028925,00.html

[Takeda Shingen]

Well, now it is time to see just how effective these people will be. Will they reign in government spending? Will they provide a voice against America's self-destructive interventionist policy? Will they secure the border and enforce our laws? Or, as I suspect, will they act in the interests of the Republican establishment? Will they stand in opposition to the Republican agenda, or will they be crushed beneath the boot heels of the Neo-Conservatives?

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

So I need to ask, is the Obama Presidency a failed social studies experiment?

yes, next question.

Now what was it that obama said after he won in 08?

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Well, now it is time to see just how effective these people will be. Will they reign in government spending? Will they provide a voice against America's self-destructive interventionist policy? Will they secure the border and enforce our laws? Or, as I suspect, will they act in the interests of the Republican establishment? Will they stand in opposition to the Republican agenda, or will they be crushed beneath the boot heels of the Neo-Conservatives?

I think the current trend in US politics, is un-doing what the other party did.

Party "A" wins, puts party "B" on trial for corruption, blah, blah blah
(four years later)
Party "B" wins and puts party "A" on trial blah blah blah.

repeat as nessicary (sp)

[Buddahaid]

This whole political climate seems like one long hostile unisex divorce proceeding. (missing barf smiley)

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

The people(country) have spoken. Obama needs to govern from the center. Just as he stumped in 2008.

Obama is too much of an ideologue to do that.Bill Clinton enjoyed the office and the power more than he cared about his principles so he listened to Dick Morris and gave the appearance of moving to the center, cake for the people so to speak.Obama may try this but doubt it, he is too committed to his lefty ways.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by papa_smurf

This has been interesting to watch from a non-US perspective. Does this mean President Obama will find it difficult getting laws passed? Will the Republicans try to block new legislation or not risk it, as that might dent their chances of getting into power in 2 years time

Still, much more interesting than the bunch we got

Yes Obama will not have free reign as he has had for two years to implement his agenda, which is not popular with the citizens but he has ignored us time and time again.

With Republicans controlling the house now, he will not be able to rape this country any longer.So either he will budge or there will be gridlock.

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Plenty of hate, sheer hate, from the tea party - no way to call some of the campaign stunts any different than that.

please clarify and cite an example or two

I'm not a TEA party member myself, but i know a lot of people who are and i call some of them friends.

Each of them who i have spoken to do not vilify anyone, they do not express hatred for anyone... they have all said the same thing which boils down to this:

for years they have grown more and more disgusted with and tired of a government which only grows larger and larger, takes more and more from the people, expands greater and greater power and most importantly to them it seems... SPENDS trillions upon trillions of dollars like there is no tomorrow.

They seem to - correctly - understand that this debt, this mounting prison of debt is something that will have to be passed down to the generations of their children, grandchildren and great grandchildren.

The TEA Party from what i have viewed with my own eyes is simply a group of people who are tired of being promised change at each election by each candidate and are instead given the same old routine.

I have seen no messages of red in the face "Hate" coming from them when they speak.

nor i have heard any wishes to put democrats, or leftists in ovens and gas chambers or prison camps.

nor i have spoken with has ever once used any unacceptable hate speech when talking about the leadership of this nation.

any YOU may have seen were either "plants" or they represent a small and uneducated group of A-Holes who think they "fit in" with the TEA Party.

[tater]

Originally Posted by Skybird

The atmosphere has been poisened like I cannot remember it ever has been the case during my adult lifetime since I started to observe politics. Plenty of hate, sheer hate, from the tea party - no way to call some of the campaign stunts any different than that.

You're delusional, or see things from bizarrely filtered media. Seriously.

One, any student of US history would find the current climate fairly normal.

Two, the "hate" is certainly less than vs Bush. We had major movies (Moore) spouting insanity about him. Posters not just calling him Hitler, but with cross hairs, or other death wishes. The Tea party is amazingly benign compared to that, frankly. Ever read Kos, or Huffpo during the Bush years? or DU? LOL. I recently started listening to Firewater, and their last albumn has a song saying they're gonna put Bush "in the ground" (Hey Clown). Same song has the lyric "all my troubles are because of you and your pathetic crew." I laugh, it's a decent song actually, but he's so delusional if he thinks all his troubles are from the POTUS. That's just silly. As silly as over-hyping the dislike of Obama.

Clinton could easily move to the center in 1994, because he came from a history of governing from the center as governor of Arkanas. Obama has no history of such a thing. His news conference today shows his inability to recognize the change. He is much like a gangland boss in his defiance.

To use Obama's own words....'we won'!

BTW, why is Klaus Nomi sing about Nancy Pelosi?

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Well, now it is time to see just how effective these people will be. ?