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Old 10-29-10, 12:16 AM   #16
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If I vote for a third-party candidate they tell my I'm wasting my vote and hurting one side or the other.

So I tell 'em I voted for "None of the above". They tell me "If you don't vote, you have no right to complain." So if I don't like any of the candidates, I have no right to complain about all of them?

The biggest problem with public office is that the only people who want it are the worst ones to have there. Anybody who wants that kind of job doesn't deserve it, and we can't draft the ones who do.

So once-in-a-great while somebody comes along that I actually like, and I get told that I'm wasting my vote on him.

But I'm now starting on a second trip around the circle, so I'll go back to saying all this to myself.
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Old 10-29-10, 07:24 AM   #17
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Why don't you just vote for who you want and tell the prognosticators to go take a hike?
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Old 10-29-10, 10:39 AM   #18
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The Tea party never said they were an 'orginized party' rather it is a movement towards conservatisim regardless of party afilliation.

Many have eschewed their republican registration and have registered as conservative or independant.

Its just that its pretty damn hard to find a conservative democrat.

"conservative democrat" lol that is an oxymoron .Yea let me know when someone finds that unicorn....
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Old 10-29-10, 10:54 AM   #19
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"conservative democrat" lol that is an oxymoron .Yea let me know when someone finds that unicorn....
http://www.house.gov/melancon/BlueDogs/
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Old 10-29-10, 10:58 AM   #20
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They are not really Conservative, just enough to get elected in their districts is all.
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Old 10-29-10, 11:13 AM   #21
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Dunno I haven't had time to thoroughly go over each point but the general idea sounds pretty good to me...

Blue Dog Blueprint for Fiscal Relief

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1. Restore Pay-As-You-Go budget rules. The first step we can take to ensure that government does not spend beyond its means is to restore the proven, bipartisan pay-as-you-go (PAYGO) rules that effectively brought about budget surpluses in the 1990’s.

2. Put the lid on federal spending. In addition to balancing the federal checkbook, Congress should set limits on discretionary spending. Just like American families who make tough decisions every day, Congress must learn to live within its means.

3. Cut programs that don’t work. Congress must work with the Administration to identify and cut programs that don’t work. A commonsense budget enforcement tool, “expedited rescission” was passed by the House with bipartisan support in the 1990’s.

4. Reduce the deficit. This tool forces Congress to live within its means by keeping our federal budget on setting a path towards balance. Congress would be required to cut spending to meet these targets, effectively reducing the deficit over time.

5. Balance the budget. A critical component of the plan, a constitutional amendment would require that Congress balance the budget by 2020.

6. Be honest about our long term fiscal obligations. Congress should be required to produce an honest and open assessment of the government’s long-term financial obligations as part of the budget resolution every year.

7. Establish a bipartisan fiscal commission. A fiscal reform commission should be established to force Congress’ hand in making the tough decisions necessary to put the country back on a fiscally sustainable path.

8. Improve transparency and accountability. Congress has a responsibility to hold government agencies accountable for wasteful spending. This measure would reduce the estimated $98 billion that is wasted annually when a federal agency pays too much or pays twice for a product or service.

9. Establish performance-based budgeting. Performance-based budgeting is a results oriented budget tool that sets goals and performance targets for agencies, and measures their results, much like a small business. It is a commonsense policy that has been successfully implemented on the state level for many years.

10. Eliminate waste, fraud and abuse. Research shows that for every $1.00 we put into “program integrity accounts” that identify and eliminate waste, fraud and abuse in government spending, we get $1.50 back. The authorization levels for these programs should be increased.

11. Account for every dollar. Evaluating every dollar spent on our national defense is not only good fiscal practice; it is a matter of national security. Like all other major federal agencies, the Department of Defense should be subject to annual audits.

12. Close tax loopholes. It is critical that the federal government continue to identify and report loopholes and inefficiencies within the current tax system. We can expand on these reports to reflect the total revenue lost and to identify inefficient tax subsidies.

13. Take the politics out of the equation. In order to promote efficiency and eliminate undue political pressures, this provision would transition the Joint Committee on Taxation to an independent, nonpartisan legislative branch agency.

14. Eliminate duplication and inefficiency. Government programs that are duplicative or inefficient can be a substantial drain on the federal budget. Establishing an independent, bipartisan commission to recommend reorganizational changes to the federal government would help to streamline these programs and save taxpayer dollars.

15. Review and terminate unnecessary federal programs. A “Sunset Commission” should be established to conduct regular reviews of federal programs and agencies, and make recommendations as to those which should be terminated.
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Old 10-29-10, 11:14 AM   #22
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I was about to post the same thing, August.
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Old 10-29-10, 11:24 AM   #23
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I could have sworn I heard Pelosi on the senate floor spewing nearly every one of those talking points.

She nearly coined the phrase "Pay as you go" for cryin out loud.

Of course none of it has happened. In fact they increased spending manyfold.

Pay as you go ... pfffyea right.
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Old 10-29-10, 03:57 PM   #24
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I thought she was too drain some so called swamp.
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