Former SH5 Producer Alexandru Gris talks about Software-Quality - Page 9

Zoomer96 · 09-03-10, 08:24 AM

How about modding Silent Hunter 5 to include the Pacific Theater? I haven't been playing it lately, but it is a great subsim. The Uboat war is okay but I am more comfortable with the Gato, S boats and Balao class. So Why not a Fleet boat Add On? I feel that we should put everyone on the same page................

09-03-10, 08:33 AM

We can't even add fully working Ships yet.

So fully working Player Subs are a ways down the road I'm afraid.

Zoomer96 · 09-03-10, 08:43 AM

Well, that just sucks!

danlisa · 09-03-10, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Zoomer96

So Why not a Fleet boat Add On? I feel that we should put everyone on the same page................

Yes, and by the law of averages, following a half assed attempt with Uboats and a half assed attempt with Fleet boat, they might have been able to produce a complete all encompassing game that satisfied everyone.

Oh wait.

Takeda Shingen · 09-03-10, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Zoomer96

How about modding Silent Hunter 5 to include the Pacific Theater? I haven't been playing it lately, but it is a great subsim. The Uboat war is okay but I am more comfortable with the Gato, S boats and Balao class. So Why not a Fleet boat Add On? I feel that we should put everyone on the same page................

Modders are a highly-individualistic bunch; they generally go to work on what interests them. However, if they were to drop everything and work on player subs, they would most likely be II's and IX's to flesh out the ATO before anyone would even consider the PTO. So, Wolves of the Pacific II is a long ways away.

09-03-10, 08:56 AM

Besides,
If the Modders did it?
What would Ubi have to sell us next?

09-03-10, 10:13 AM

I have been waiting for the IL2 sequel by Oleg Maddox and his team and wouldn't it be great if a team like his could apply the care and attention they do to a subsim?
I know they take a long time to arrive but I think we would all wait if it meant waiting for the definitive SH sequel.

Ducimus · 09-03-10, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Zoomer96

How about modding Silent Hunter 5 to include the Pacific Theater? I haven't been playing it lately, but it is a great subsim. The Uboat war is okay but I am more comfortable with the Gato, S boats and Balao class. So Why not a Fleet boat Add On? I feel that we should put everyone on the same page................

Read this post:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=107

And realize it is the exact same situation for the PTO with SH5.

Takeda Shingen · 09-03-10, 11:17 AM

One more anticedote: 'Putting everyone on the same page' is not really going to wash. The modders are not our's to command. SubSim gives them a place to congregate and share their ideas, but their work is their own, and they do it as they see fit. This would be like me demanding that JScones release a new version of SHCommander or his mod enabler. He does not work for us, and does his work as it pleases him. There are no conscripts here.

Ducimus · 09-03-10, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

One more anticedote: 'Putting everyone on the same page' is not really going to wash. The modders are not our's to command. SubSim gives them a place to congregate and share their ideas, but their work is their own, and they do it as they see fit. This would be like me demanding that JScones release a new version of SHCommander or his mod enabler. He does not work for us, and does his work as it pleases him. There are no conscripts here.

I gotta say, when one person starts talking to a modder like their the "customer" and the modder the "service provider". It gets noticed in bad ways. The kicker is while most modders do their own thing, many do talk amongst each other.

09-03-10, 12:29 PM

I sincerely hope that none of the modders have ever felt that I look at them as being someone who should do THEIR work as a service to me or the community.
I admire them for what they do because as much as I would love to do what they do, I just could never find the time to do it and what small free time I do have available to myself I would rather play the game than try to fix it or extend it's capabilities.

09-03-10, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

I gotta say, when one person starts talking to a modder like their the "customer" and the modder the "service provider". It gets noticed in bad ways. The kicker is while most modders do their own thing, many do talk amongst each other.

I agree.
There are past modders who for this reason alone have edited thier posts and removed all the links to the work they did.

Highbury · 09-03-10, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by privateer

Besides,
If the Modders did it?
What would Ubi have to sell us next?

Other countries? lol

I am not one of those people who wants it moved forward in time, WWII suits me fine. But Japan or England may be a nice change....

Ah well, I doubt there will be a SH6 anyways

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Originally Posted by Barso

I have been waiting for the IL2 sequel by Oleg Maddox and his team and wouldn't it be great if a team like his could apply the care and attention they do to a subsim?

Yeah, but almost 4 years delayed is a BIT extreme isn't it? I like attention to detail, but when you take so long you have to keep revamping the whole thing for new tech.. we have an issue.

Arclight · 09-03-10, 04:56 PM

It's a bit worrying when a studio sinks all their reserves in 1 title, yes. Certainly didn't do 3D Realms any good.

JScones · 09-03-10, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Arclight

It's a bit worrying when a studio sinks all their reserves in 1 title, yes. Certainly didn't do 3D Realms any good.

I wouldn't be too sure about that now, albeit new developer... http://www.pcworld.com/article/20484...html?tk=hp_new and http://www.3drealms.com/

Still, yeah, not gonna help 3D Realms I guess.

09-03-10, 08:24 AM	#121
Zoomer96 Helmsman Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Missouri Posts: 106 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 0	Okay, How About This? How about modding Silent Hunter 5 to include the Pacific Theater? I haven't been playing it lately, but it is a great subsim. The Uboat war is okay but I am more comfortable with the Gato, S boats and Balao class. So Why not a Fleet boat Add On? I feel that we should put everyone on the same page................

09-03-10, 04:56 PM	#134
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	It's a bit worrying when a studio sinks all their reserves in 1 title, yes. Certainly didn't do 3D Realms any good. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

09-03-10, 08:33 AM	#122
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	We can't even add fully working Ships yet. So fully working Player Subs are a ways down the road I'm afraid.

09-03-10, 08:43 AM	#123
Zoomer96 Helmsman Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Missouri Posts: 106 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 0	Well, that just sucks!

09-03-10, 08:56 AM	#126
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Besides, If the Modders did it? What would Ubi have to sell us next?

09-03-10, 10:13 AM	#127
Barso Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I have been waiting for the IL2 sequel by Oleg Maddox and his team and wouldn't it be great if a team like his could apply the care and attention they do to a subsim? I know they take a long time to arrive but I think we would all wait if it meant waiting for the definitive SH sequel.

09-03-10, 11:17 AM	#129
Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	One more anticedote: 'Putting everyone on the same page' is not really going to wash. The modders are not our's to command. SubSim gives them a place to congregate and share their ideas, but their work is their own, and they do it as they see fit. This would be like me demanding that JScones release a new version of SHCommander or his mod enabler. He does not work for us, and does his work as it pleases him. There are no conscripts here.

09-03-10, 12:29 PM	#131
Barso Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I sincerely hope that none of the modders have ever felt that I look at them as being someone who should do THEIR work as a service to me or the community. I admire them for what they do because as much as I would love to do what they do, I just could never find the time to do it and what small free time I do have available to myself I would rather play the game than try to fix it or extend it's capabilities.