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Old 08-30-10, 02:50 PM   #16
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Absolutely, sad thing is that is how he sees the citizens.This explains why despite outrage on everything from the health care bill to the mosque, he defies the very people who voted for him because he feels he knows better and we are just "pests"
What would you have him do about the mosque? He did the only thing he could do and you know it.
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Old 08-30-10, 02:55 PM   #17
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What would you have him do about the mosque? He did the only thing he could do and you know it.
He could have not commented on it in the first place. IMO Takeda nails it on page 1:

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In politics, your opponents are always going to find a tool with which you bludgeon you. That being said, you don't have to go out of your way to hand them one, which is exactly what Obama did in the statement above. That quote serves to confirm the view that many people have of him as an 'elitest', and will appear repeatedly in campaign advertisements during the next presidential election cycle. Not smart, Mr. President.
Indeed. Not smart at all...
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Old 08-30-10, 03:01 PM   #18
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He could have not commented on it in the first place. IMO Takeda nails it on page 1:



Indeed. Not smart at all...
I could just hear everybody if he said "No comment". Damned if you do and damned if you don't.
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I could just hear everybody if he said "No comment". Damned if you do and damned if you don't.
Oh I'd think a master politician like the President could do a far better job than that of evading an inconvenient question don't you?
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Oh I'd think a master politician like the President could do a far better job than that of evading an inconvenient question don't you?
I wouldn't call him a master politician. He was the best pick of the worst. I don't think he could have evaded that question. If he did people would be howling that he was for it by being silent.
Curious, what would you have said if you sat in that honored seat?
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I wouldn't call him a master politician. He was the best pick of the worst. I don't think he could have evaded that question. If he did people would be howling that he was for it by being silent.
Curious, what would you have said if you sat in that honored seat?
Good question. I'm no politician and probably would have quickly inserted my foot into my mouth but I would have liked to have said something like what Boehner said:

"The fact that someone has the right to do something doesn't necessarily make it the right thing to do. This is not an issue of law, whether religious freedom or local zoning. This is a basic issue of respect for a tragic moment in our history."
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"The fact that someone has the right to do something doesn't necessarily make it the right thing to do. This is not an issue of law, whether religious freedom or local zoning. This is a basic issue of respect for a tragic moment in our history."
He couldn't say that because it's still picking a side. Various middle eastern groups would throw a fit. Touchy situation to get out of.
I'm wondering if they could even get a construction crew to take the job. They'd have to get an answering machine to take all the bomb threats.
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Obama should have said what Boehner did but that would be expecting too much from Obama because it's obvious where his loyalties are at.I don't believe Obama is a muslim but do believe his muslim backround mixed with his bleeding heart liberalism causes him to hold views that are contrary to the interests of the United States when it comes to dealing with Islam.Obvious examples are his regime refuses to use terms like radical muslim or the term war on terror.Let us not forge the apology tour,bowing to the saudi king etc etc etc Premier Obama is trying to cater to these people because he feels connected to them and disregards the majority of American's feelings as he always does.
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He couldn't say that because it's still picking a side. Various middle eastern groups would throw a fit. Touchy situation to get out of.
I'm wondering if they could even get a construction crew to take the job. They'd have to get an answering machine to take all the bomb threats.

So let the groups throw a fit, we should not cater to these people.
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So let the groups throw a fit, we should not cater to these people.
When you are the worlds only super power and have as many fingers as we have in the pie comes with a responsibility like it or not. The middle east matters and and we need all the help we can get for the war on terror even though we have to guard our back from said friendlies. Politics suck.
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Obama should have said what Boehner did but that would be expecting too much from Obama because it's obvious where his loyalties are at.I don't believe Obama is a muslim but do believe his muslim backround mixed with his bleeding heart liberalism causes him to hold views that are contrary to the interests of the United States when it comes to dealing with Islam.Obvious examples are his regime refuses to use terms like radical muslim or the term war on terror.Let us not forge the apology tour,bowing to the saudi king etc etc etc Premier Obama is trying to cater to these people because he feels connected to them and disregards the majority of American's feelings as he always does.
Do you look under the bed when you go to sleep.
I don't think I ever heard Bush or any of his group use terms like radical muslim or radical Islam either so was he catering? What does Obama call the war on terror? Can't say I paid that much attention. I also don't see him catering to these people. How does he do it?
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When you are the worlds only super power and have as many fingers as we have in the pie comes with a responsibility like it or not. The middle east matters and and we need all the help we can get for the war on terror even though we have to guard our back from said friendlies. Politics suck.

You're absolutely right about Obama being damned either way but the way I see it, right or wrong, a US President should always be seen as being on the side of the American people, regardless of how many foreign groups that may irritate. What the President said may have been intended to play well in Saudi Arabia but it has cost him here at home.
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I did not know I had so much in common with President Obama. I ignore Glen Beck too.
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You're absolutely right about Obama being damned either way but the way I see it, right or wrong, a US President should always be seen as being on the side of the American people, regardless of how many foreign groups that may irritate. What the President said may have been intended to play well in Saudi Arabia but it has cost him here at home.
Edit: He is on the side of the American people. He's backed by something called the Constitution of the United States of America. You surely can't suggest that he goes against it are you?

This is where he expanded on his statement
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"I think my statement at the Iftar dinner in the White House was very clear. And that is -- is that if you can build a church on that site, if you can build a synagogue on that site or a Hindu Temple on that site, then we can't treat people of the Islamic faith differently, who are Americans, who are American citizens," he said.
Which is a true statement however distasteful it may be. The obvious trick is finding a way to block it after the NY counsel voted for it.
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