more then me that can't play right now?

melin71 · 07-22-10, 01:03 PM

I seems not to be abel to start the game. are the dam master server down?

yllekm · 07-22-10, 01:11 PM

Same problem here.

Los · 07-22-10, 01:20 PM

yup

M4XDmG · 07-22-10, 01:21 PM

First time ever this happens to me.

Now I'm pissed.

Edit: Works now!

yllekm · 07-22-10, 01:25 PM

Bah! I can't even login in to the Ubisoft forums to complain about it.

Nice DRM, Ubi. I'm a paying cutomer and can't play.

*** COMMENT EDITED OUT ***

I guess DRM really does just punish the honest, paying customers.

SteelViking · 07-22-10, 01:30 PM

You might want to edit out that bit about piracy. Even spreading info such as this is really looked down upon here. You may receive an infraction. Not preaching, just a friendly warning.

07-22-10, 01:37 PM

saying things like that is encouraging piracy which something that we do not allow talking about here.

there are other ways to say things without actually saying it so you wouldnt find yourself getting in trouble here but i think you knew full well what you were doing.

ubi isnt reading this and your not talking to ubi here so all your doing is asking to be banned by saying such things here

Los · 07-22-10, 02:46 PM

He's right tho.... right now Drm is only stopping the legit players from playing. Kinda backwards.

Harmsway! · 07-22-10, 03:26 PM

This kind of thing is strangely encouraging. I don't believe UBI wants to see server problems anymore then we do. This might mean they have to waste time on a game they no longer want to bother with. Unless I'm wrong and the same server is used for their other DRM games, they may have a business case in removing the DRM requirement.

In other words whats the logic in supporting a SH5 DRM server with resources if you aren't even willing to give resources to a patch?

yllekm · 07-22-10, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteelViking

You might want to edit out that bit about piracy. Even spreading info such as this is really looked down upon here. You may receive an infraction. Not preaching, just a friendly warning.

Well, I could edit it but since you quoted it, what I said would still be there for all to see.

And, just in case anyone gets the wrong idea about me, I own two licenses for SH5 - the retail DVD and the digital download gold version.

Walruss · 07-22-10, 08:17 PM

DRM is a ticking time bomb waiting to explode. As has been said in other threads (e.g the resale thread just above this one) it's style often contravenes commercial law in countries that aren't the US. I'm not sure, but I'm fairly certain you could contest it in Australia too, with a good lawyer.

It's funny because games like Supreme Commander, with only a CD key, and a game design that allowed one to play it from the game files alone (no installation necessary) still do exceedingly well. From figures I've seen in the past, when securorom was the big thing, companies were spending more money on 'protection' than what piracy ever cost them. And no matter what you do, how secure you make it, you're still giving someone a bunch of code, and with the right techniques, any code can be altered. I mean, look at the thriving modding community here?

Just be glad it isn't starcraft 2, complete with no LAN support.

PS: If you do take the cost analysis into account, it wasn't piracy that made these measures popular with game publishers, but paranoia.

SteelViking · 07-22-10, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yllekm

Well, I could edit it but since you quoted it, what I said would still be there for all to see.

And, just in case anyone gets the wrong idea about me, I own two licenses for SH5 - the retail DVD and the digital download gold version.

However, I can and will delete that post of mine, and I am sure that Webster will do the same if you edited your statement how we advised. I am not accusing you of piracy, I just wanted to let you and everyone else know that the explicit discussion of piracy is not allowed.

07-22-10, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yllekm

Well, I could edit it but since you quoted it, what I said would still be there for all to see.

And, just in case anyone gets the wrong idea about me, I own two licenses for SH5 - the retail DVD and the digital download gold version.

talking about or encouraging piracy has no bearing on weather you actually own the game.

infraction given and all referenced quotes deleted

Ducimus · 07-22-10, 08:56 PM

You guys mean this?

Personally, I decided to give SH5 the one fingered salute in retaliation for upsetting my fragile sensitivities.

Walruss · 07-22-10, 09:28 PM

Ducimus- in a word? brilliance :P

07-22-10, 01:03 PM	#1
melin71 Electrician's Mate Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 135 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	more then me that can't play right now? I seems not to be abel to start the game. are the dam master server down? __________________ ------------------------------- Intel Dual core 2 E6600 ATI HD5870 1gb DDR5 Soundblaster X-FI Extream gaming 3 GB ram Vista home premium -------------------------------

07-22-10, 01:25 PM	#5
yllekm Mate Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 52 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	Bah! I can't even login in to the Ubisoft forums to complain about it. Nice DRM, Ubi. I'm a paying cutomer and can't play. * COMMENT EDITED OUT * I guess DRM really does just punish the honest, paying customers. Last edited by Webster; 07-22-10 at 08:44 PM.

07-22-10, 01:30 PM	#6
SteelViking The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: U.S.A.-East Coast Posts: 1,587 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 4	You might want to edit out that bit about piracy. Even spreading info such as this is really looked down upon here. You may receive an infraction. Not preaching, just a friendly warning. __________________ He sank 198,650 tons....who you ask?....Erich Topp, that's who! Last edited by Webster; 07-22-10 at 08:44 PM.

07-22-10, 01:37 PM	#7
Webster Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	saying things like that is encouraging piracy which something that we do not allow talking about here. there are other ways to say things without actually saying it so you wouldnt find yourself getting in trouble here but i think you knew full well what you were doing. ubi isnt reading this and your not talking to ubi here so all your doing is asking to be banned by saying such things here Last edited by Webster; 07-22-10 at 08:44 PM.

07-22-10, 01:11 PM	#2
yllekm Mate Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 52 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	Same problem here.

07-22-10, 01:20 PM	#3
Los Seaman Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 35 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	yup

07-22-10, 01:21 PM	#4
M4XDmG Helmsman Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Finland Posts: 108 Downloads: 106 Uploads: 0	First time ever this happens to me. Now I'm pissed. Edit: Works now!

07-22-10, 02:46 PM	#8
Los Seaman Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 35 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	He's right tho.... right now Drm is only stopping the legit players from playing. Kinda backwards.

07-22-10, 03:26 PM	#9
Harmsway! XO Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 400 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 0	This kind of thing is strangely encouraging. I don't believe UBI wants to see server problems anymore then we do. This might mean they have to waste time on a game they no longer want to bother with. Unless I'm wrong and the same server is used for their other DRM games, they may have a business case in removing the DRM requirement. In other words whats the logic in supporting a SH5 DRM server with resources if you aren't even willing to give resources to a patch?

07-22-10, 08:17 PM	#11
Walruss Soundman Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 144 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 0	DRM is a ticking time bomb waiting to explode. As has been said in other threads (e.g the resale thread just above this one) it's style often contravenes commercial law in countries that aren't the US. I'm not sure, but I'm fairly certain you could contest it in Australia too, with a good lawyer. It's funny because games like Supreme Commander, with only a CD key, and a game design that allowed one to play it from the game files alone (no installation necessary) still do exceedingly well. From figures I've seen in the past, when securorom was the big thing, companies were spending more money on 'protection' than what piracy ever cost them. And no matter what you do, how secure you make it, you're still giving someone a bunch of code, and with the right techniques, any code can be altered. I mean, look at the thriving modding community here? Just be glad it isn't starcraft 2, complete with no LAN support. PS: If you do take the cost analysis into account, it wasn't piracy that made these measures popular with game publishers, but paranoia.

07-22-10, 08:56 PM	#14
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	You guys mean this? Personally, I decided to give SH5 the one fingered salute in retaliation for upsetting my fragile sensitivities.

07-22-10, 09:28 PM	#15
Walruss Soundman Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 144 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 0	Ducimus- in a word? brilliance :P