what does "angle on bow" mean?

Dpredator · 09-23-05, 08:09 PM

i know it may be a stupid question. however i just started to play this game, and i am a chinese. can anything tell me what exactly "angle on bow" mean. plz and thanks

Marhkimov · 09-23-05, 08:30 PM

what does being chinese have to do with anything???

_alphaBeta_ · 09-23-05, 09:08 PM

Angle on bow refers to your position from the ships' perspective. Specifically it's the bearing that the ship sees you at.

benetofski · 09-23-05, 10:10 PM

In an ideal situation, a submarine's Kapitan could position his uboat with its bow pointed directly at the side of an unmoving target and fire his torpedoes straight ahead, where they would inevitably hit the target.

In real life, both the uboot and the target are normally moving in different directions, and the captain has to calculate the correct path (angle on bow) that his torpedo will need to follow in order to get a hit.

The TDC (press F6) will enable you to do this manually (or automatically via your weapons officer) and is, in effect, an 'angle' solver!

Hope this helps!

Twelvefield · 09-24-05, 02:16 AM

An example:

Get two ball point pens, say a red one and a blue one. Lay both pens on a flat desk. Your sub is the blue pen. Point the blue pen north. Its course or heading is 000 degrees. Point the pen south, and its course is 180. Pen points east = 090, pen points west = 270.

Point the blue pen north, and place the red pen in the area of where the blue pen is pointing. The red pen is your target. The angle the long axis of the red pen makes in relation to the long axis of the blue pen is its Angle On Bow or AOB. Ideally, the red pen should be laying 90 degrees to the blue pen for the best AOB. That is, the red pen and the blue pen form a "T" shape. So, if the blue pen is pointing north, the red pen should be arranged so that it points east or west.

If you turn the blue pen to a new heading, then you must change the position of the red pen to get the best angle: 90 degrees AOB.

If the red pen is not 90 degrees to the point of the blue pen, then you must estimate or use trigonometry to calculate the AOB.

So, your sub is the blue pen, and the red pen is the target. What you see through the periscope is what you see on the desk with the pens, as long as the periscope is aligned with the bow of your sub. You want the hull of the target to be 90 degrees to the long axis of your sub. If it isn't, try to make the pens on your desk match the picture in your periscope, measure that angle with a protractor, and you have a pretty good guess for your AOB. Or, try to move your sub so that it comes into position with your target at 90 degrees AOB. Either way, the closer your AOB is to 90 degrees, the better the chances you have that your torpedo will explode on target, especially if you are using impact triggers.

Tombomsee · 09-24-05, 02:46 AM

Try out this one :

http://www.communitymanuals.com/shii...e=Angle_on_bow

Lots of other helpful topics in there.

kiwi_2005 · 09-25-05, 09:38 AM

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Twelvefield, Blue pen , Red pen, pen ,pen pen, pen,

Far out Twelvefield, your explanation, gave me a strong urge to go running though the streets naked yelling LOS. DIVE DIVE. ALARM!!!!

Patboot · 09-25-05, 02:11 PM

Hope this helps-

Alyebard · 09-26-05, 02:00 AM

Patboot, what is the source of this image? Did you put an URL?

Thnks!

martes86 · 09-26-05, 02:04 AM

Nice educative pic.

The Avon Lady · 09-26-05, 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marhkimov

what does being chinese have to do with anything???

Maybe he thinks we're talking about "anger" on the the bow.

In which case, I don't know what that means, either!

The Avon Lady · 09-26-05, 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alyebard

Patboot, what is the source of this image? Did you put an URL?

Right click on image and select PROPERTIES.

You can always do this, except when a page is running a script (usually Java) that prevents you from getting that info.

Alyebard · 09-26-05, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alyebard

Patboot, what is the source of this image? Did you put an URL?

Right click on image and select PROPERTIES.

You can always do this, except when a page is running a script (usually Java) that prevents you from getting that info.

Sorry for my bad english, i was asking for the "original" source of the picture, what book, what navy manual?

Patboot · 09-26-05, 11:41 AM

Oh, heck, I don't remember...lemme see if I can dig it up.

Patboot · 09-26-05, 11:47 AM

http://www.battlebelow.com/Torpterm.htm

Here's a better one.

09-23-05, 08:09 PM	#1
Dpredator Bilge Rat Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	what does "angle on bow" mean? i know it may be a stupid question. however i just started to play this game, and i am a chinese. can anything tell me what exactly "angle on bow" mean. plz and thanks

09-23-05, 08:30 PM	#2
Marhkimov Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bay Area, California, USA Posts: 2,377 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	what does being chinese have to do with anything??? __________________ It takes two to tango

09-23-05, 09:08 PM	#3
_alphaBeta_ Medic Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NJ, USA Posts: 163 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	Angle on bow refers to your position from the ships' perspective. Specifically it's the bearing that the ship sees you at. __________________

09-23-05, 10:10 PM	#4
benetofski Helmsman Join Date: May 2005 Location: Port Perry, Canada Posts: 106 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	In an ideal situation, a submarine's Kapitan could position his uboat with its bow pointed directly at the side of an unmoving target and fire his torpedoes straight ahead, where they would inevitably hit the target. In real life, both the uboot and the target are normally moving in different directions, and the captain has to calculate the correct path (angle on bow) that his torpedo will need to follow in order to get a hit. The TDC (press F6) will enable you to do this manually (or automatically via your weapons officer) and is, in effect, an 'angle' solver! Hope this helps! __________________ OLt.z.S.Benetschik (Benetofski) [IMG][/IMG] \"U-bootwaffe - eine Gemeinschaft zusammengebracht durch Schicksal\"

09-26-05, 02:00 AM	#9
Alyebard Medic Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Girona - Catalunya Posts: 164 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Patboot, what is the source of this image? Did you put an URL? Thnks! __________________ Navigare necesse est, vivere non est necesse Navegar 'es necessari. Viure no

09-24-05, 02:16 AM	#5
Twelvefield Planesman Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 186 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	An example: Get two ball point pens, say a red one and a blue one. Lay both pens on a flat desk. Your sub is the blue pen. Point the blue pen north. Its course or heading is 000 degrees. Point the pen south, and its course is 180. Pen points east = 090, pen points west = 270. Point the blue pen north, and place the red pen in the area of where the blue pen is pointing. The red pen is your target. The angle the long axis of the red pen makes in relation to the long axis of the blue pen is its Angle On Bow or AOB. Ideally, the red pen should be laying 90 degrees to the blue pen for the best AOB. That is, the red pen and the blue pen form a "T" shape. So, if the blue pen is pointing north, the red pen should be arranged so that it points east or west. If you turn the blue pen to a new heading, then you must change the position of the red pen to get the best angle: 90 degrees AOB. If the red pen is not 90 degrees to the point of the blue pen, then you must estimate or use trigonometry to calculate the AOB. So, your sub is the blue pen, and the red pen is the target. What you see through the periscope is what you see on the desk with the pens, as long as the periscope is aligned with the bow of your sub. You want the hull of the target to be 90 degrees to the long axis of your sub. If it isn't, try to make the pens on your desk match the picture in your periscope, measure that angle with a protractor, and you have a pretty good guess for your AOB. Or, try to move your sub so that it comes into position with your target at 90 degrees AOB. Either way, the closer your AOB is to 90 degrees, the better the chances you have that your torpedo will explode on target, especially if you are using impact triggers.

09-24-05, 02:46 AM	#6
Tombomsee Seaman Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Hamburg Posts: 32 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	Try out this one : http://www.communitymanuals.com/shii...e=Angle_on_bow Lots of other helpful topics in there.

09-25-05, 02:11 PM	#8
Patboot Engineer Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 212 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Hope this helps-

09-26-05, 02:04 AM	#10
martes86 Grey Wolf Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The Colourful Seville - Spain Posts: 971 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	Nice educative pic.

09-26-05, 11:41 AM	#14
Patboot Engineer Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 212 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Oh, heck, I don't remember...lemme see if I can dig it up.

09-26-05, 11:47 AM	#15
Patboot Engineer Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 212 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	http://www.battlebelow.com/Torpterm.htm Here's a better one.