[REL] Radar Training for Nisgeis' 3D TDC and Radar Range Unit UPDATED: 7/31/10 - Page 2

clayp · 07-19-10, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Channing

Most of the mods you are using are for RFB, not TMO. Try putting it in and see what happens. The worst thing that can happen is that it screws something up, and then you can just take it back out again.

It's really worth it!

JCC

I put it in and the game wouldnt start...

sergei · 07-19-10, 01:49 PM

Very nice work JC, thanks for this.
It's really helped me out.

I was really struggling with getting this to work. At first I assumed it just didn't work properly in TMO 2.0.

No matter what I did, I couldn't seem to get the range triangle to show up.

Now I realise I was missing out a vitally important step.
You have to switch the radar into expanded mode to take your range reading.

The mod works just fine in TMO 2.0. Classic case of operator error.

Tried it out today, tracking an incoming target in light fog.
By the time he was within view I had his course pretty much nailed, and was submerged about 1500 yards off his track, just waiting.

Incredibly satisfying.

Gorshkov · 07-19-10, 01:53 PM

All it does is to give you accurate target's course estimation at distances beyond active sonar and periscope/stadimeter range. Stock radar cannot do this. This is very useful because you can get initial fire position sailing surfaced and not being spotted by enemy ships. Later you can submerge to carry out your attack. Possibly Japs did not have RWRs at that time which made American radars so deadly asset.

PS. Does this mod work with RFB 2.0?

sergei · 07-19-10, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Gorshkov

PS. Does this mod work with RFB 2.0?

I'd be inclined to ask this question in the Release Thread
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=170944

Gorshkov · 07-19-10, 02:16 PM

Yeah, I have already looked at this thread. This mod probably does not work with RFB. What a pity...

Nisgeis · 07-19-10, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gorshkov

PS. Does this mod work with RFB 2.0?

I don't know, I've never tried it. Certainly there is no version specifically for RFB yet and if the version out now did work with RFB, you'd lose any interior changes to the sub.

Bubblehead1980 · 07-19-10, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gorshkov

All it does is to give you accurate target's course estimation at distances beyond active sonar and periscope/stadimeter range. Stock radar cannot do this. This is very useful because you can get initial fire position sailing surfaced and not being spotted by enemy ships. Later you can submerge to carry out your attack. Possibly Japs did not have RWRs at that time which made American radars so deadly asset.

PS. Does this mod work with RFB 2.0?

Exactly and as far as I can tell, Japanese never had RWR

I'm goin' down · 07-19-10, 05:35 PM

I activated this mod last. The button on the sonar dial is missing. When I delete the mod, it reappears.

I cannot drag the triangle up or down.

I get a reading in yds., nm's, but nothing on the spaces below.

I have a few mods activated but not many. I play tmo2.0/rsrdc.

John Channing · 07-19-10, 06:43 PM

1) Not sure what button you are refering to.

2) You don't actually drag the triangle. When you place your cursor on the A-Scope screen and hold the left mouse button down, the radar screen moves in the direction you move your mouse, the triangle stays stationary. Can you move the screen using the dial on the left?

3) The White numbers are the radar range according to where you set the triangle. The green numbers won't activate until you have a solution entered into the TDC. That's the next lesson.

JCC

I'm goin' down · 07-19-10, 11:01 PM

the sonar man yells out bearing when you have sonar check for contacts. When the sonar is looked on the bearing, you click the button and the sonarman yells merchant at x degrees. I have no button as it has disappeared when I use the Radar Range mod.

Nisgeis · 07-20-10, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by I'm goin' down

I activated this mod last. The button on the sonar dial is missing. When I delete the mod, it reappears.

For some reason two of the sonar controls are part of the radar stack, so when the radar got moved to the right the controls did too. I didn't spot it, because I wasn't expecting it. The switches are still there, just out of place. Using the toolbar commands still works. Will be updated soon (TM).

I'm goin' down · 07-20-10, 07:26 PM

I just figured that out on a Gar. I stopped using the Gato until I figure this mod out.

I'm goin' down · 07-20-10, 08:01 PM

I cannot find the radar range bearing indicator. What screen is it located on?

Nisgeis · 07-21-10, 02:55 AM

It's mounted more or less directly above the range unit - look up in the 'A' Scope view (the green screen) and it's on the pressure hull.

I'm goin' down · 07-21-10, 02:19 PM

I would not have thought to look up there. I am now using a Gar. It is 6/41 and your mod has no triangle. Where did it go? Do you have any idea why it disappeared? Also, I will probably have to wait for Channing to get further in his tutorial to understand all of the mods aspects.

07-19-10, 05:35 PM	#23
I'm goin' down Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Notify command we have entered the Grass Sea Posts: 2,822 Downloads: 813 Uploads: 0	problem with mod I activated this mod last. The button on the sonar dial is missing. When I delete the mod, it reappears. I cannot drag the triangle up or down. I get a reading in yds., nm's, but nothing on the spaces below. I have a few mods activated but not many. I play tmo2.0/rsrdc.

07-19-10, 11:01 PM	#25
I'm goin' down Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Notify command we have entered the Grass Sea Posts: 2,822 Downloads: 813 Uploads: 0	mr. channing the sonar man yells out bearing when you have sonar check for contacts. When the sonar is looked on the bearing, you click the button and the sonarman yells merchant at x degrees. I have no button as it has disappeared when I use the Radar Range mod.

07-20-10, 07:26 PM	#27
I'm goin' down Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Notify command we have entered the Grass Sea Posts: 2,822 Downloads: 813 Uploads: 0	thanks for the tip Niesgeis I just figured that out on a Gar. I stopped using the Gato until I figure this mod out.

07-20-10, 08:01 PM	#28
I'm goin' down Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Notify command we have entered the Grass Sea Posts: 2,822 Downloads: 813 Uploads: 0	where is the I cannot find the radar range bearing indicator. What screen is it located on?

07-21-10, 02:55 AM	#29
Nisgeis Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,909 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 11	It's mounted more or less directly above the range unit - look up in the 'A' Scope view (the green screen) and it's on the pressure hull. __________________ -------------------------------- This space left intentionally blank.

07-19-10, 01:49 PM	#17
sergei Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: London UK Posts: 1,788 Downloads: 405 Uploads: 29	Very nice work JC, thanks for this. It's really helped me out. I was really struggling with getting this to work. At first I assumed it just didn't work properly in TMO 2.0. No matter what I did, I couldn't seem to get the range triangle to show up. Now I realise I was missing out a vitally important step. You have to switch the radar into expanded mode to take your range reading. The mod works just fine in TMO 2.0. Classic case of operator error. Tried it out today, tracking an incoming target in light fog. By the time he was within view I had his course pretty much nailed, and was submerged about 1500 yards off his track, just waiting. Incredibly satisfying.

07-19-10, 01:53 PM	#18
Gorshkov Commodore Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 604 Downloads: 139 Uploads: 0	All it does is to give you accurate target's course estimation at distances beyond active sonar and periscope/stadimeter range. Stock radar cannot do this. This is very useful because you can get initial fire position sailing surfaced and not being spotted by enemy ships. Later you can submerge to carry out your attack. Possibly Japs did not have RWRs at that time which made American radars so deadly asset. PS. Does this mod work with RFB 2.0?

07-19-10, 02:16 PM	#20
Gorshkov Commodore Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 604 Downloads: 139 Uploads: 0	Yeah, I have already looked at this thread. This mod probably does not work with RFB. What a pity...

07-19-10, 06:43 PM	#24
John Channing Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 1998 Posts: 1,846 Downloads: 163 Uploads: 5	1) Not sure what button you are refering to. 2) You don't actually drag the triangle. When you place your cursor on the A-Scope screen and hold the left mouse button down, the radar screen moves in the direction you move your mouse, the triangle stays stationary. Can you move the screen using the dial on the left? 3) The White numbers are the radar range according to where you set the triangle. The green numbers won't activate until you have a solution entered into the TDC. That's the next lesson. JCC

07-21-10, 02:19 PM	#30
I'm goin' down Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Notify command we have entered the Grass Sea Posts: 2,822 Downloads: 813 Uploads: 0	nisgeis I would not have thought to look up there. I am now using a Gar. It is 6/41 and your mod has no triangle. Where did it go? Do you have any idea why it disappeared? Also, I will probably have to wait for Channing to get further in his tutorial to understand all of the mods aspects.