"Moon"

[August]

Originally Posted by onelifecrisis

*SPOILER ALERT*
An example:
You wake up, and see yourself standing there, along with the robot. Do you
a) ask the person, who looks like you, who they are
b) ask the robot what is going on
c) get up, ignore the clone, waste some time wandering around the ship, maybe working on your model or tending your plants, not talking to the robot or the clone, not asking any questions or developing the plot or characters in any way at all.

C.

It's called denial and no I don't mean that river in Egypt.

After all, if I had been stuck on a space station, alone, for years and I saw *myself* standing there i might indeed be a bit reluctant to believe my eyes.

[onelifecrisis]

Originally Posted by August

C.

It's called denial and no I don't mean that river in Egypt.

After all, if I had been stuck on a space station, alone, for years and I saw *myself* standing there i might indeed be a bit reluctant to believe my eyes.

If you say so. Either way, C doesn't move anything forward. IMO the film had very little to say on the subject of cloning and humanity so it just spent 90 minutes dawdling. If they'd had more material, but wanted to stick with the denial thing, then they could have cut out the dawdling with a scene where one clone says to the other "you've been ignoring me for 2 days" or whatever. But they didn't, so they didn't. And that's just one example - the whole film is full of such dawdling.

[Weiss Pinguin]

Originally Posted by August

C.

It's called denial and no I don't mean that river in Egypt.

After all, if I had been stuck on a space station, alone, for years and I saw *myself* standing there i might indeed be a bit reluctant to believe my eyes.

That's my thought. Personally that's one of the parts that I liked trying to figure out: is he crazy, or is there really someone else on the station?

Also, MORE SPOILERS ahead:

I refer to the vision of a dark-haired woman, first in the base, then outside the space buggy. This vision causes the driver to crash the space buggy which ultimately breaks the cycle. The robot says to the corporation that "the circumstances of the crash are very strange" or something to that effect. So, who was this girl? Why did Sam have a vision of her? Why did none of the other Sams have visions of her? Not only is this mystery not answered, it's not even mentioned for the rest of the film!

Been a while since I saw it so I may be fuzzy on some things, but IIRC that was a hallucination of his (their?) daughter, when he makes the phone call later you can see it's the same girl.

Or at least I'm pretty sure that's how it went...


As I said, a slow, quiet movie, not for everyone

[onelifecrisis]

Originally Posted by Weiss Pinguin

That's my thought. Personally that's one of the parts that I liked trying to figure out: is he crazy, or is there really someone else on the station?

Also, MORE SPOILERS ahead:

Been a while since I saw it so I may be fuzzy on some things, but IIRC that was a hallucination of his (their?) daughter, when he makes the phone call later you can see it's the same girl.

Or at least I'm pretty sure that's how it went...


As I said, a slow, quiet movie, not for everyone

I also thought it might have been his daughter, though I didn't bother rewinding to check, but that still doesn't explain the mystery of why he had a vision of her. It's just a really poor plot device. Something else could have broken the cycle much more believably - some unpredictable circumstance like a system failure or something - but instead we have the first psychic clone. If it were me I'd have woken up the other clones because maybe some of those could have predicted the future or cast spells.

[frau kaleun]

Originally Posted by Skybird

A "Berliner" (sometimes also named "Pfannkuchen", especially in Berlin) is something like a donut, yes, just without a hole in the middle, but instead some marmelade. Omlettes in style of a pancake we also call Pfannkuchen.

Well that would work, then, because what we call a jelly donut hereabouts doesn't have a hole in the middle either, not in the sense of being a "ring."

It's just a roundish pastry with a jam/jelly type fruit filling.

Aaaaaaaand now I want pastry.

Actually, having googled Pfannkuchen, some of the more pancake-y ones look like something I had at this diner in Chicago. They made a fruit pancake that was not cooked on the stovetop/griddle, they would pour the batter into a shallow round baking pan and bake it. The fruit topping that went in the center of the pancake would end up more like a baked pie filling and you could order all different kinds of fresh fruit for it. Plus, the finished product would be about the size of a fruit pie, bigger around than the average dinner plate, although not as deep as a proper pie of course. Man was it good.

[Weiss Pinguin]

Yeah that part was a little weird But I've seen dumber things crammed into beter movies...