Just noticed a strange typing error on the loading screen - Page 2

frau kaleun · 07-05-10, 07:13 PM

Either that or the game just draws some random piece of text from some random file every time the "error" occurs.

I've always seen the name of a savegame, but then I stopped looking for it once I realized it was a glitch that wouldn't cause any other problems... so who knows?

Gerald · 07-08-10, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by frau kaleun

Either that or the game just draws some random piece of text from some random file every time the "error" occurs.

I've always seen the name of a savegame, but then I stopped looking for it once I realized it was a glitch that wouldn't cause any other problems... so who knows?

soulution?

LGN1 · 07-09-10, 02:21 AM

I think it's always the name of the first savegame. I never noticed it in the stock game, only when more text than the standard data was added

I am not sure whether the amount of the added text is important

JScones · 07-09-10, 06:43 AM

Sigh. Does anyone ever use the "Search" feature here anymore? This question has been asked and answered 10's of times over the last five years!

The problem is nothing to worry about, it's simply that SH3 has a limited number of display characters on the screen. Reloading a save game decreases the number of characters, due to the save game text taking up some of the otherwise free character space. The anomaly you see is simply part of the save game name overwriting the News text.

Paul Riley · 07-09-10, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by JScones

Sigh. Does anyone ever use the "Search" feature here anymore? This question has been asked and answered 10's of times over the last five years!

The problem is nothing to worry about, it's simply that SH3 has a limited number of display characters on the screen. Reloading a save game decreases the number of characters, due to the save game text taking up some of the otherwise free character space. The anomaly you see is simply part of the save game name overwriting the News text.

With millions of tonnes of information within this forum finding a link to EXACTLY what you are after can be difficult sometimes,thats why we usually create a post?

JScones · 07-09-10, 07:27 AM

Took me less than a minute to find the answer to the question that you posted 3 odd days ago <shrugs>.

Gerald · 07-09-10, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by JScones

Took me less than a minute to find the answer to the question that you posted 3 odd days ago <shrugs>.

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Again, guys, search the &*#^! archives before guessing! This same question has been asked and answered before. It is not SH3 related - search Google and follow the oodles of instructions. Seriously, it only takes a few minutes to do.

Heck, I'll even help you get started... http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...num=0&ct=resul t&cd=1&q=Error+1316.+a+network+error+occurred+wh il e+attempting&spell=1

Hint: Windows installer cleanup utility...

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IT'S JUST BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT MODS HAVING NAMES STARTING WITH [ ARE NOT CORRECTLY HANDLED BY JSGME!

I know the reason and will be working on an update as time permits over the next few weeks. In the meantime, the workaround is simply to ensure that mod names DO NOT START with a [. For example:

BAD:
C:\Games\SilentHunter\MODS\[My Mod] Conning Tower Emblem\data\

GOOD:
C:\Games\SilentHunter\MODS\(My Mod) Conning Tower Emblem\data\
C:\Games\SilentHunter\MODS\Conning Tower Emblem [My Mod]\data\
C:\Games\SilentHunter\MODS\Conning Tower [My Mod] Emblem\data\
So the main Q,is how may people install in A,well if you have split your hard drive in partion,a stand for floppy or dvd.cd......but anyway,thing get more unstable or slower on this side of earth!
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Paul Riley · 07-09-10, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by JScones

Took me less than a minute to find the answer to the question that you posted 3 odd days ago <shrugs>.

Sorry that its pi##ed you off in some way

JScones · 07-09-10, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Riley

With millions of tonnes of information within this forum finding a link to EXACTLY what you are after can be difficult sometimes,thats why we usually create a post?

Oh the irony.

Paul Riley · 07-09-10, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JScones

Oh the irony.

?

hehe,I hate ironing.

LGN1 · 07-09-10, 08:00 AM

Hi,

Is there a clear cut number of characters that work (save game name + message)? IIRC I sometimes had quite short messages and still saw the save game name

Concerning the search function: sometimes it helps a lot when you know that what you are looking for exists already. At least for me. Sometimes I am looking for an old thread and it's not easy to find it, but since I know it exists, I continue trying... in most cases I can find it via posts/words I remember in the thread.

Cheers, LGN1

JScones · 07-09-10, 08:18 AM

No fixed number of characters; the text is limited by display area, ie text with a lot of wide characters truncates sooner than text with a lot of narrow characters (despite emulating a typewriter, the font is not quite fixed width). In addition, the save filename text competes with the same display area, so the longer the filename, the less characters again.

I trimmed most of the "white space" out of the NewsMod back in 2006 (the text was even longer before then), and given that the problem a) only appears when reloading save games, b) only appears occasionally (ie months with longer lines of text or where user has used a long save filename) and c) has absolutely no impact on the game at all, I chose not to trim out any more. However, if it really distracts/bothers/upsets people, all they need do is edit SH3Cmdr\Cfg\Menu variable_**.txt. They'll be able to quickly see the lines (months) most likely affected and can edit out what they want.

Jimbuna · 07-09-10, 08:35 AM

I thought the question had been answered in #8 then confirmed in #10

LGN1 · 07-09-10, 08:37 AM

Thanks for the detailed reply, JScones

JScones · 07-09-10, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

I thought the question had been answered in #8 then confirmed in #10

Seemingly only for some.

But the point is, it's been answered many times before post #8, if you know what I mean. People seem to forget that SH3 is five years old now; there's every likelihood that if there is such an obvious problem, it's been raised before. A search (not just by the OP but anyone thinking of guessing) can take less than one minute...well, perhaps now 10 minutes thanks to the impossible-to-read Captcha...but still...

F'instance, there's posts around practically telling guys who have install problems to format their drive, or perform other over-the-top actions. A simple keyword search could stop a lot of angst for both the OP and those providing, in good faith granted, but unhelpful suggestions, given the tried-and-tested solutions already available.

But I know, I'm p^ssing into a head wind...

07-09-10, 08:35 AM	#28
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,584 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I thought the question had been answered in #8 then confirmed in #10 __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

07-05-10, 07:13 PM	#16
frau kaleun Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skyri--oh who are we kidding, I'm probably at Lowe's. Again. Posts: 12,706 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 0	Either that or the game just draws some random piece of text from some random file every time the "error" occurs. I've always seen the name of a savegame, but then I stopped looking for it once I realized it was a glitch that wouldn't cause any other problems... so who knows?

07-09-10, 02:21 AM	#18
LGN1 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,138 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 12	I think it's always the name of the first savegame. I never noticed it in the stock game, only when more text than the standard data was added I am not sure whether the amount of the added text is important

07-09-10, 06:43 AM	#19
JScones Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,501 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Sigh. Does anyone ever use the "Search" feature here anymore? This question has been asked and answered 10's of times over the last five years! The problem is nothing to worry about, it's simply that SH3 has a limited number of display characters on the screen. Reloading a save game decreases the number of characters, due to the save game text taking up some of the otherwise free character space. The anomaly you see is simply part of the save game name overwriting the News text.

07-09-10, 07:27 AM	#21
JScones Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,501 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Took me less than a minute to find the answer to the question that you posted 3 odd days ago <shrugs>.

07-09-10, 08:00 AM	#26
LGN1 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,138 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 12	Hi, Is there a clear cut number of characters that work (save game name + message)? IIRC I sometimes had quite short messages and still saw the save game name Concerning the search function: sometimes it helps a lot when you know that what you are looking for exists already. At least for me. Sometimes I am looking for an old thread and it's not easy to find it, but since I know it exists, I continue trying... in most cases I can find it via posts/words I remember in the thread. Cheers, LGN1

07-09-10, 08:18 AM	#27
JScones Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,501 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	No fixed number of characters; the text is limited by display area, ie text with a lot of wide characters truncates sooner than text with a lot of narrow characters (despite emulating a typewriter, the font is not quite fixed width). In addition, the save filename text competes with the same display area, so the longer the filename, the less characters again. I trimmed most of the "white space" out of the NewsMod back in 2006 (the text was even longer before then), and given that the problem a) only appears when reloading save games, b) only appears occasionally (ie months with longer lines of text or where user has used a long save filename) and c) has absolutely no impact on the game at all, I chose not to trim out any more. However, if it really distracts/bothers/upsets people, all they need do is edit SH3Cmdr\Cfg\Menu variable_**.txt. They'll be able to quickly see the lines (months) most likely affected and can edit out what they want.

07-09-10, 08:37 AM	#29
LGN1 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,138 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 12	Thanks for the detailed reply, JScones