Tour a Foxtrot sub in San Deigo!

jason10mm · 09-19-05, 12:16 PM

I haven't seen it posted here yet, so let me be the first to tell everyone to go tour the B-39 Foxtrot "Cobra" in San Deigo!

I went there to see the USS Midway, and was pleasantly surprised to see a replica Royal Navy frigate (renamed the HMS Surprise and used as the exterior model in "Master and Commander") and the passenger/cargo ship "Star of India" berthed a few blocks away. Then my jaw hit the ground when I noticed the black sub docked behind the Surprise, especially when I saw the Hammer and Sickle inside the Red Star!

The B-39 is a new addition to the museum:

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniont...s_1n22sub.html

http://www.sdmaritime.com/contentpage.asp?ContentID=177

and isn't listed along with the other ships in the Historic Naval Ships Visitors Guide. The Surprise, being a replica, probably shouldn't count, especially since the gun deck is not very authentic, being mostly a museum and still has the "steer by wire" apparatus used for the movie.

Anyway, the B-39 was in good shape. She is laid out very similar to a Gato sub. I snapped lots of pics, so I will try to post them when I can. Alas, my time was limited, but I'm heading back to SD in a few months and will try to visit her again. I encourage everyone to go, it is a very odd experience (for this American soldier anyway) to stand where a former enemy stood, especially right after coming from her target, the Midway.

Kapitan · 09-19-05, 12:29 PM

yeah its been mentioned before i never personaly been on the cobra but i have been on a foxtrot in russia one that was in storage on the kola peninsular.

along with many other submarines

anyways welcom to subsim

do you plaw dangerous waters of sub command or SH3 ?

if you play sub command or dangerous waters do you command russian chinease or american vessels ?

jason10mm · 09-19-05, 12:48 PM

I have DW and SH3. I played the hell out of 688i back in the day (even failed a pharmacy test because of it %> so I'm looking forward to DW. I'm playing SH3 now since I have minimal game time and can only remember 1 set of commands at a time! I used to play Silent Service (pacific war, right?) and dabbled with Aces of the Deep. This is my first WW2 sub sim in a LONG time.

Oh, I also forgot that the Star of India has a really nice set of posters displaying the development of the submarine.

MadMike · 09-19-05, 01:02 PM

Jason,
Thanks for the heads up!
The "HMS Surprise" is actually the tall thip Rose-

http://www.tallshiprose.org/

Like you pointed out, many of these tall ships have modern contraptions aboard. Very few in the world that don't- being original (USS Constitution, HMS Victory, Wasa).

Some history of the Foxtrot class-

http://www.fas.org/MAN/dod-101/sys/ship/row/rus/641.htm

Yours, Mike

IYAAYAS!

Kapitan · 09-19-05, 01:04 PM

welcome aboard

August · 09-19-05, 01:14 PM

We have our own Juliett here in Providence.

http://www.providenceri.com/special/sub/hours.html

PeriscopeDepth · 09-19-05, 01:25 PM

I saw a Foxtrot in Long Beach by QM before I went down to school in San Diego. Now that I'm here though I might have to check it out.

Thanks

Kapitan · 09-19-05, 02:03 PM

theres loads of russian submarines across the world but few on display get on one while you can they wont last forever

Type941 · 09-19-05, 03:33 PM

Funny that they paint a big arse red star on it though - or hammer and sickle as the case with foxtrot. :rotfl:

Kapitan · 09-19-05, 03:58 PM

in real life a little red star near the sail would all that would be showing nothing like that as it "disgraces the motherlands defence"

Type941 · 09-19-05, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kapitain

"disgraces the motherlands defence"

I hope that when they put it near Midway for Exhibit will paint it more appropriately as they say in that article.

Original owner painted the sickle and hammer on the sail - how bloody predictable. probably used Hollywood for the refences.

Kapitan · 09-19-05, 05:41 PM

more than likely

August · 09-19-05, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Type941

Funny that they paint a big arse red star on it though - or hammer and sickle as the case with foxtrot. :rotfl:

I believe that and the big hole they cut in the side of the hull were for the movie K-19.

Kapitan · 09-20-05, 01:25 AM

K414 was used in K19 film and the juilette herself is a good looking boat

jason10mm · 09-20-05, 08:00 AM

Upon review of my pictures, I was mistaken about the hammer and sickle on the sail. It has a red star, but the H&S were on a banner advertizing the exhibit (and perhaps on a flag on the bow, it isn't clear from the pics). Anyway, nothing too outrageous on the sub itself

09-19-05, 12:16 PM	#1
jason10mm Sailor man Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: San Antonio Posts: 48 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Tour a Foxtrot sub in San Deigo! I haven't seen it posted here yet, so let me be the first to tell everyone to go tour the B-39 Foxtrot "Cobra" in San Deigo! I went there to see the USS Midway, and was pleasantly surprised to see a replica Royal Navy frigate (renamed the HMS Surprise and used as the exterior model in "Master and Commander") and the passenger/cargo ship "Star of India" berthed a few blocks away. Then my jaw hit the ground when I noticed the black sub docked behind the Surprise, especially when I saw the Hammer and Sickle inside the Red Star! The B-39 is a new addition to the museum: http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniont...s_1n22sub.html http://www.sdmaritime.com/contentpage.asp?ContentID=177 and isn't listed along with the other ships in the Historic Naval Ships Visitors Guide. The Surprise, being a replica, probably shouldn't count, especially since the gun deck is not very authentic, being mostly a museum and still has the "steer by wire" apparatus used for the movie. Anyway, the B-39 was in good shape. She is laid out very similar to a Gato sub. I snapped lots of pics, so I will try to post them when I can. Alas, my time was limited, but I'm heading back to SD in a few months and will try to visit her again. I encourage everyone to go, it is a very odd experience (for this American soldier anyway) to stand where a former enemy stood, especially right after coming from her target, the Midway.

09-19-05, 12:29 PM	#2
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	yeah its been mentioned before i never personaly been on the cobra but i have been on a foxtrot in russia one that was in storage on the kola peninsular. along with many other submarines anyways welcom to subsim do you plaw dangerous waters of sub command or SH3 ? if you play sub command or dangerous waters do you command russian chinease or american vessels ? __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

09-19-05, 01:04 PM	#5
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	welcome aboard __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

09-19-05, 01:14 PM	#6
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,197 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	We have our own Juliett here in Providence. http://www.providenceri.com/special/sub/hours.html __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

09-19-05, 02:03 PM	#8
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	theres loads of russian submarines across the world but few on display get on one while you can they wont last forever __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

09-19-05, 12:48 PM	#3
jason10mm Sailor man Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: San Antonio Posts: 48 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I have DW and SH3. I played the hell out of 688i back in the day (even failed a pharmacy test because of it %> so I'm looking forward to DW. I'm playing SH3 now since I have minimal game time and can only remember 1 set of commands at a time! I used to play Silent Service (pacific war, right?) and dabbled with Aces of the Deep. This is my first WW2 sub sim in a LONG time. Oh, I also forgot that the Star of India has a really nice set of posters displaying the development of the submarine.

09-19-05, 01:02 PM	#4
MadMike Watch Officer Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 342 Downloads: 241 Uploads: 0	Jason, Thanks for the heads up! The "HMS Surprise" is actually the tall thip Rose- http://www.tallshiprose.org/ Like you pointed out, many of these tall ships have modern contraptions aboard. Very few in the world that don't- being original (USS Constitution, HMS Victory, Wasa). Some history of the Foxtrot class- http://www.fas.org/MAN/dod-101/sys/ship/row/rus/641.htm Yours, Mike IYAAYAS!

09-19-05, 01:25 PM	#7
PeriscopeDepth Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pacific NW Posts: 1,894 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	I saw a Foxtrot in Long Beach by QM before I went down to school in San Diego. Now that I'm here though I might have to check it out. Thanks

09-19-05, 03:33 PM	#9
Type941 Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: U-52 Posts: 1,270 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Funny that they paint a big arse red star on it though - or hammer and sickle as the case with foxtrot. :rotfl: __________________ Sink the Bismarck SH3 Movie

09-19-05, 03:58 PM	#10
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	in real life a little red star near the sail would all that would be showing nothing like that as it "disgraces the motherlands defence" __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

09-19-05, 05:41 PM	#12
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	more than likely __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

09-20-05, 01:25 AM	#14
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	K414 was used in K19 film and the juilette herself is a good looking boat __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

09-20-05, 08:00 AM	#15
jason10mm Sailor man Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: San Antonio Posts: 48 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Upon review of my pictures, I was mistaken about the hammer and sickle on the sail. It has a red star, but the H&S were on a banner advertizing the exhibit (and perhaps on a flag on the bow, it isn't clear from the pics). Anyway, nothing too outrageous on the sub itself