Deepwater Horizon oil spill

[XabbaRus]

I'm getting tired of Obama's rhetoric and the increasingly strident language he is using towards BP.

BP maybe overall responsible but it was Transoceans rig and Halliburton's (IIRC) BOP. It's almost as if he has an agenda against BP. Maybe a way to get BP out of the American market?

Although Obama has come across as the liberal new guy who is going to bring change, I think that he is actually an isolationist and I also think that he personally doesn't have much time or respect for the UK really, not in the way previous US presidents have, or at least on the face of it they did.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...696597,00.html

"Washington and BP -- 'Like a Junkie Controlling His Dealer'"

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...699382,00.html

"Oil Spill's Real Threat Lies Beneath the Surface"

[krashkart]

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...696597,00.html

"Washington and BP -- 'Like a Junkie Controlling His Dealer'"

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...699382,00.html

"Oil Spill's Real Threat Lies Beneath the Surface"

On that second link, the news here has made mention of the underwater plumes a number of times over the weeks. Yeah, the Gulf is screwed big time. The fishing/shrimping industry will take years to recover, the oyster beds will be chock full of oil and toxins for decades (them filter feeders, they soak up everything). Dolphins are about ready to bring in a new generation, too -- right in the middle of it all. News ticker this morning read "it could take years to clean up the spill". That's pretty much a given; thanks CBS for telling us what we already know.

What I didn't know until Sunday was that BP's CEO told Sky News that the environmental impact of the leak would be (and I don't remember his exact words, so...) minimal. He's trying to keep the public from slashing his throat, obviously. Would be much better if he came forward and said, "Well, we screwed up and the Gulf of Mexico will be a sticky mess for many, many years to come. Oh, and we welcome locals to help us clean up the mess, but please do be careful; leave the larger masses of oil to the guys in HazMat suits."

"Rig survivors: BP ordered shortcut on day of blast"

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/06/08...gns/index.html

[krashkart]

Transocean is doing everything it can to shift the blame away from itself.

The rig survivors also said it was always understood that you could get fired if you raised safety concerns that might delay drilling. Some co-workers had been fired for speaking out, they said.

"There is no scenario or circumstance under which it will be compromised," the company said in a written statement. "So critical is safety at Transocean that every crew member has stop-work authority, a real-time method by which all work is halted should any employee suspect an unsafe situation or operation."

Quite a conflict there. I better not cast a shadow, it's too soon. What's your take on this article, OTH?

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by XabbaRus

It's almost as if he has an agenda against BP. Maybe a way to get BP out of the American market?.

I dont think he will be happy untill BP is driven into bankrupcy.

It's not just an agenda against BP it is at his core belief that capatilisim is a bad thing in general.

In the meantime it appears that some progress has been made by the evil BP. I dont know but it seems like BP is the only one doing anything constructive out there.

GULF SHORES, Ala. (AP) - A top BP executive says the company expects to be capturing virtually all the oil leaking from the Gulf floor by early next week.

Chief operating officer Doug Suttles told The Associated Press on Tuesday in Gulf Shores, Ala., that the flow should decrease "to a relative trickle" by Monday or Tuesday.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

[geetrue]

I dont think he will be happy untill BP is driven into bankrupcy

We should freeze all BP assets and take over BP aka AM/PM

Take a serious slice of all future profits to be shared with all parties the oil spill has effected on the Gulf Coast ... absolve BP if the debt is higher than the profit.

If they go bankrupt filling chapter 11 which would cost them everything anyway. Misewell teat them like the banks we took over.

Can't lose either way

Where is the huge converted oil tanker at that could be scooping up oil?

Should of been ordered 58 days ago.

I would order the US Navy and US Army engineers to take over myself.

Have you seen how thick that stuff is lately?

It's sickning and I live 2,200 miles away

[XabbaRus]

I don't agree with that at all geetrue. That smacks of vengence.

BP from the word go has accepted responsibility, paid out compensation straight off without complaining. I agree that they should postpone the dividend however screwing BP till they go bankrupt is irresponsible and vengeful.

Where are Transocean and Halliburton? They seem to be pushing all the blame onto BP. The BOP was Halliburtons.

[CaptainHaplo]

Not sure why the BOP is Halliburton's - unless its just because its Halliburton and thus its evil. Document and testimony show that HB made a standard pour, and warned about specific issues. BP ordered the mud to be circulated well less than the standard time required, was the one that applied for the seawater permit, and was the decisionmaker to instigate the seawater exchange. Transocean - as the rig operator - is responsible for the lack of proper function of the blowout preventor.

HB did as it was contracted to do - and warned of concerns it had.
Transocean expressed concern over the directives of BP, but is responsible for the blowout preventor.
BP chose to over-ride warnings from both firms, failed to insure proper mud cycle time to check for gas, applied for the permit and used seawater to substitute for the drilling mude - which was the direct cause of the problem. Had BP listened to the issues and not tried to "rush" - we wouldn't be having this discussion.....

Explain to me why its evil Haliburton that is the one that should be targetted.....

[XabbaRus]

My understanding is that the BOP was Halliburtons and that it did not work. Therefore if that is the case then Halliburton should also shoulder the blame.

Nothing to do with Halliburton being evil just because.

All I see is Transocean and Halliburton running very fast from ANY responsibility at all and lumping it all on BP using the "they told us to" trick.

I don't mind Americans being mad, I sympathise for the 1000's of people who are affected by it. I do mind Obama shooting his mouth off with quite frankly undiplomatic language that I think isn't becoming of the President of the most powerful country on the planet.

[tater]

http://www.ouramazingplanet.com/info...n-trench-0249/

[Weiss Pinguin]

Originally Posted by tater

http://www.ouramazingplanet.com/info...n-trench-0249/

Wow

[krashkart]

The Wiki entry for Deepwater Horizon says that the rig was owned by Transocean and leased to BP.

Transocean, the rig owner, operated the rig under the Marshalese flag of convenience.[12] Beginning in 2008, BP Exploration leased the Deepwater Horizon from Transocean Ltd.[12] In October 2009, the contract was extended until 2013.[5][12] The lease contract was worth $544 million, a rate of $496,800 per day.[13]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepwater_horizon

[mookiemookie]

How BP handles a coffee spill:

[krashkart]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

How BP handles a coffee spill:

Ten thumbs up!