[REQ]Snorkel

ERPP8 · 04-18-10, 08:28 AM

I added the keyboard command and it always says "Snorkel Not Available"
I searched the data folder and the model and animation is there.
Is there any way to fix it?
It would be very helpful.

SKLR · 04-18-10, 09:53 AM

It was my understanding that snorkels were introduced by the Kriegsmarine around the beginning of 1944, so technically that piece of equipment not being present in the game is correct seeing that the campaign ends in may 1943. I might be wrong though.

ERPP8 · 04-18-10, 10:23 AM

The model is there, and it went into widespread use in 1943
There's still the option of single missions though.

TheDarkWraith · 04-18-10, 01:08 PM

I've been trying to get the snorkel working for some time now. If I can get it working then I can use it to control the flags mod (so flags raise/lower). But that bugger of a snorkel just refuses to work at all.

LukeFF · 04-19-10, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ERPP8

The model is there, and it went into widespread use in 1943

The first operational Type VII boat to patrol with a snorkel was U-264 in February 1944.

ERPP8 · 04-19-10, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by LukeFF

The first operational Type VII boat to patrol with a snorkel was U-264 in February 1944.

It's still not available in single missions after then.
Maybe when the rest of the war is added it will be useful.

SloppyMk27 · 04-20-10, 07:48 PM

After reading this forum and seeing

, it really makes me wonder if the snorkel was left out of the game's core software. Is that possible?

I imagine the snorkel shows up in some user-editable files because they may have been left there by the devs. The software is by no means perfect and I think it's possible the snorkel could be one of the many casualties by imperfections in the hard coded software.

That's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

Sloppy

ERPP8 · 04-20-10, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SloppyMk27

After reading this forum and seeing

, it really makes me wonder if the snorkel was left out of the game's core software. Is that possible?

I imagine the snorkel shows up in some user-editable files because they may have been left there by the devs. The software is by no means perfect and I think it's possible the snorkel could be one of the many casualties by imperfections in the hard coded software.

That's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

Sloppy

Yes
There's the model and a keyboard shortcut.
But it's never avalable

LukeFF · 04-21-10, 12:55 AM

Even if it still was available for use, we'd still be stuck with the gamey ability to use the snorkel at any speed we so choose, when in reality boats couldn't run more than 6 knots without running the risk of snapping the snorkel off. A speed limit really needs to be coded in by the devs in order to make use of the snorkel realistic.

Bilge_Rat · 04-21-10, 07:19 AM

I was reading about the snorkel in Blair's book. Most crews did not like it. The boat was basicilly deaf and blind while it was in use. The noise and vibration of the diesel made the hydrophone and periscope impossible to use. In practice, most boats would only turn it on for 4 hours a day to recharge batteries and then switch to electric motors the rest of the day.

LukeFF · 04-21-10, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

I was reading about the snorkel in Blair's book. Most crews did not like it. The boat was basicilly deaf and blind while it was in use. The noise and vibration of the diesel made the hydrophone and periscope impossible to use.

Ah yes, those were the other disadvantages to the snorkel. Features which are totally absent from the game.

gimpy117 · 04-21-10, 11:04 PM

but its better than getting bombed!!!

04-18-10, 08:28 AM	#1
ERPP8 Commodore Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: My House Posts: 608 Downloads: 161 Uploads: 0	[REQ]Snorkel I added the keyboard command and it always says "Snorkel Not Available" I searched the data folder and the model and animation is there. Is there any way to fix it? It would be very helpful.

04-20-10, 07:48 PM	#7
SloppyMk27 Mate Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 59 Downloads: 82 Uploads: 4	Broken Snorkel After reading this forum and seeing , it really makes me wonder if the snorkel was left out of the game's core software. Is that possible? I imagine the snorkel shows up in some user-editable files because they may have been left there by the devs. The software is by no means perfect and I think it's possible the snorkel could be one of the many casualties by imperfections in the hard coded software. That's just my opinion, I could be wrong. Sloppy

04-21-10, 12:55 AM	#9
LukeFF Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Riverside, California Posts: 3,610 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 5	Even if it still was available for use, we'd still be stuck with the gamey ability to use the snorkel at any speed we so choose, when in reality boats couldn't run more than 6 knots without running the risk of snapping the snorkel off. A speed limit really needs to be coded in by the devs in order to make use of the snorkel realistic. __________________ ROW Sound Effects Contributor RFB Team Leader

04-21-10, 07:19 AM	#10
Bilge_Rat Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: standing watch... Posts: 3,856 Downloads: 344 Uploads: 0	I was reading about the snorkel in Blair's book. Most crews did not like it. The boat was basicilly deaf and blind while it was in use. The noise and vibration of the diesel made the hydrophone and periscope impossible to use. In practice, most boats would only turn it on for 4 hours a day to recharge batteries and then switch to electric motors the rest of the day. __________________

04-21-10, 11:04 PM	#12
gimpy117 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 3,243 Downloads: 108 Uploads: 0	but its better than getting bombed!!! __________________ Member of the Subsim Zombie Army

04-18-10, 09:53 AM	#2
SKLR Watch Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 20 Downloads: 185 Uploads: 0	It was my understanding that snorkels were introduced by the Kriegsmarine around the beginning of 1944, so technically that piece of equipment not being present in the game is correct seeing that the campaign ends in may 1943. I might be wrong though.

04-18-10, 10:23 AM	#3
ERPP8 Commodore Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: My House Posts: 608 Downloads: 161 Uploads: 0	The model is there, and it went into widespread use in 1943 There's still the option of single missions though.

04-18-10, 01:08 PM	#4
TheDarkWraith Black Magic Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,962 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 5	I've been trying to get the snorkel working for some time now. If I can get it working then I can use it to control the flags mod (so flags raise/lower). But that bugger of a snorkel just refuses to work at all.