2 ideas: AI Flakboat and Raider mod

HundertzehnGustav · 09-06-05, 10:56 AM

The german mercahnt raiders (Kormoran and the other mafiabosses)
are in fact, merchant ships fitted with cannons, right? so why does my sonar man her it as a warship? its shurely got merchant like engines...

late on inthe war IIRC the FLAKBOOTE, VIIC boats with tons of 20 mm barrels and the like were used to provide cover near the coast ,

now i want an AI Flakboat to show me the way, instead of a trawler, from &Ã§'' onwards or so...

Col7777 · 09-06-05, 11:12 AM

I think that is a good point, as far as I know they did masquerade as a freighter then open fire when in range.

HundertzehnGustav · 09-06-05, 11:18 AM

Yes, i guess that is true i dont know any facts, but i think they acted like the old sailors that were allowed to do that with an official letter from the King or Queen

Bucaneers?
Corsairs?
what were they called.
Go shoot scare them, and steal their gold from the ship.

But to me, they are friendly, they have Cargo engines, and they scare the crap out of me each time i meet them north of Wilhelmshafen. i always fear they are a VW or some Tribal s*cker

Commander1980 · 09-06-05, 12:22 PM

I will try to get that AI-Flakboat with Turm IV working

CCIP · 09-06-05, 12:28 PM

Actually, it'd be great if we could get a scripted U-boat group led by a U-Flak in 1943 leaving port when you leave - so that you could "join" them and get through Biscay together (by going on the same speed and heading).

It should be possible I think :hmm:

sergbuto · 09-06-05, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Commander1980

I will try to get that AI-Flakboat with Turm IV working

Not to destruct you but to just make you aware that it is already in my version 3.0 of AI U-boats along with some other additions. Hopefully, coming out soon.

Commander1980 · 09-06-05, 12:43 PM

Well, i wasn't succesful with my first (and only

) idea and i have some other projects in progress. Looking forward to your V3.0

Shadow9216 · 09-07-05, 09:02 AM

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Yes, i guess that is true i dont know any facts, but i think they acted like the old sailors that were allowed to do that with an official letter from the King or Queen

Privateers, carrying Letters of Marque. Legalized piracy, in other words.

I don't know why the DD or Armed Trawler couldn't be changed to a flak sub, seems like a simple swap out. As for a pack, I'm sure that could be added in the Harbor Traffic mod, but how would you script it so that it only occurs when you sail out? Some sort of trigger would have to happen to cause the group to spawn.

Rubini · 09-07-05, 09:29 AM

Hi guys,

I'm working hard to finish the new version of HT...

About the flak uboat and the possibility to scripted a "flak convoy" at Biscay, I think that if you use airpower mod will be very difficult to shoot down the planes anyway. And will be necessary to make a "flak convoy" to any port on the Biscay Bay. But it's a great idea, if someone have more comments/ideas in this stuff will be good. :hmm:

Rubini.

Shadow9216 · 09-07-05, 09:47 AM

What about scripting a group with the trigger being the appearance of the player's boat? I realize you'd have to do it for Brest/Lorient/St Nazaire, but if you just create one "Wolfpack" and spawn it in those 3 ports, that could work...IF the trigger functions correctly. It should AFAIK.

Shadow9216 · 09-07-05, 09:59 AM

What about scripting a group with the trigger being the appearance of the player's boat? I realize you'd have to do it for Brest/Lorient/St Nazaire, but if you just create one "Wolfpack" and spawn it in those 3 ports, that could work...IF the trigger functions correctly. It should AFAIK.

Rubini · 09-07-05, 02:06 PM

I never play with triggers on SH3. Are they functional in the campaigns or only for single missions? :hmm:

Rubini.

CCIP · 09-07-05, 02:55 PM

No, as far as I know, triggers will only work in single missions.

Rubini · 09-07-05, 04:18 PM

Thanks for the info CCIP.

Let's wait Sergei's work. Perhaps we will find another way to implement things like that.

Rubini.

Commander1980 · 09-07-05, 04:41 PM

what about painting the course of the the flakboat on the map. If the player desires AA-defense-cover, he has to follow that route. I've integrated something like this into the scr-layer. A "Vorpostenboot" (Tugboat with heavy aa-defense) sailing some 150 km into the bay of biscay and if i want cover, i can follow that boat.

09-06-05, 10:56 AM	#1
HundertzehnGustav Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lux, betw. G, B and F Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	2 ideas: AI Flakboat and Raider mod The german mercahnt raiders (Kormoran and the other mafiabosses) are in fact, merchant ships fitted with cannons, right? so why does my sonar man her it as a warship? its shurely got merchant like engines... late on inthe war IIRC the FLAKBOOTE, VIIC boats with tons of 20 mm barrels and the like were used to provide cover near the coast , now i want an AI Flakboat to show me the way, instead of a trawler, from &Ã§'' onwards or so... __________________ In conclusion: SH3 is the shizzle, yo. -Frau Kaleun Another negative about using your deck gun is that you are definately DETECTED, which has long term effects on your relationship with aircraft. -snestorm

09-06-05, 11:12 AM	#2
Col7777 Grey Wolf Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Manchester UK Posts: 944 Downloads: 260 Uploads: 0	I think that is a good point, as far as I know they did masquerade as a freighter then open fire when in range. __________________ Silent and Violent

09-06-05, 11:18 AM	#3
HundertzehnGustav Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lux, betw. G, B and F Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	Yes, i guess that is true i dont know any facts, but i think they acted like the old sailors that were allowed to do that with an official letter from the King or Queen Bucaneers? Corsairs? what were they called. Go shoot scare them, and steal their gold from the ship. But to me, they are friendly, they have Cargo engines, and they scare the crap out of me each time i meet them north of Wilhelmshafen. i always fear they are a VW or some Tribal s*cker __________________ In conclusion: SH3 is the shizzle, yo. -Frau Kaleun Another negative about using your deck gun is that you are definately DETECTED, which has long term effects on your relationship with aircraft. -snestorm

09-06-05, 12:22 PM	#4
Commander1980 Engineer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 218 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	I will try to get that AI-Flakboat with Turm IV working __________________ New Unit \"Flottenbegleiter\" List of all available equipment and weapons in SH3

09-06-05, 12:28 PM	#5
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Actually, it'd be great if we could get a scripted U-boat group led by a U-Flak in 1943 leaving port when you leave - so that you could "join" them and get through Biscay together (by going on the same speed and heading). It should be possible I think :hmm: __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

09-06-05, 12:43 PM	#7
Commander1980 Engineer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 218 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Well, i wasn't succesful with my first (and only ) idea and i have some other projects in progress. Looking forward to your V3.0 __________________ New Unit \"Flottenbegleiter\" List of all available equipment and weapons in SH3

09-07-05, 09:29 AM	#9
Rubini Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: São Paulo Brazil Posts: 2,728 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	Hi guys, I'm working hard to finish the new version of HT... About the flak uboat and the possibility to scripted a "flak convoy" at Biscay, I think that if you use airpower mod will be very difficult to shoot down the planes anyway. And will be necessary to make a "flak convoy" to any port on the Biscay Bay. But it's a great idea, if someone have more comments/ideas in this stuff will be good. :hmm: Rubini.

09-07-05, 09:47 AM	#10
Shadow9216 Frogman Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 296 Downloads: 91 Uploads: 0	What about scripting a group with the trigger being the appearance of the player's boat? I realize you'd have to do it for Brest/Lorient/St Nazaire, but if you just create one "Wolfpack" and spawn it in those 3 ports, that could work...IF the trigger functions correctly. It should AFAIK.

09-07-05, 09:59 AM	#11
Shadow9216 Frogman Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 296 Downloads: 91 Uploads: 0	What about scripting a group with the trigger being the appearance of the player's boat? I realize you'd have to do it for Brest/Lorient/St Nazaire, but if you just create one "Wolfpack" and spawn it in those 3 ports, that could work...IF the trigger functions correctly. It should AFAIK.

09-07-05, 02:06 PM	#12
Rubini Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: São Paulo Brazil Posts: 2,728 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	I never play with triggers on SH3. Are they functional in the campaigns or only for single missions? :hmm: Rubini.

09-07-05, 02:55 PM	#13
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	No, as far as I know, triggers will only work in single missions. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

09-07-05, 04:18 PM	#14
Rubini Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: São Paulo Brazil Posts: 2,728 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the info CCIP. Let's wait Sergei's work. Perhaps we will find another way to implement things like that. Rubini.

09-07-05, 04:41 PM	#15
Commander1980 Engineer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 218 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	what about painting the course of the the flakboat on the map. If the player desires AA-defense-cover, he has to follow that route. I've integrated something like this into the scr-layer. A "Vorpostenboot" (Tugboat with heavy aa-defense) sailing some 150 km into the bay of biscay and if i want cover, i can follow that boat. __________________ New Unit \"Flottenbegleiter\" List of all available equipment and weapons in SH3