Thank you all for the great mods but...

[7thSeal]

Originally Posted by speedbird

SH5 will never get even close to SH3 as a sim...

Sorry.

Which mods did you try for SH5?

[bigboywooly]

Comparing SH5 as is and SH3 after 5 years of modding is a lil one sided

Sure both were buggy on release and after 5 years you think the devs might have picked up on a few things ppl want in a game

Am sure SH5 in 5 years time will be a totally different game than is now

I can see though why ppl keep harping back to SH3 in the majority of these type posts - not SH4 - as there is a certain immersiveness missing from SH5 that SH3 had even OTB
Maybe the graphics are just too good, too bright and shiny
Dont give you that feeling of being cooped up etc

Leaving all the glaring ommissions aside it does seem to lack something

And not sure no amount of mods will cure that
But as I said earlier in 5 years time will be all change

SH3 is like your fave movie
Its comfortable

I know I can run a patrol in SH3 ( modded to f**k ) and come across a different ship every sighting
All sorts of nations and units
I can leave port and see moving cranes and ppl on the docks
Can try a harbour raid and get caught in searchlights from land and guns - providing I succesfully passed the mines and subnets ( ALL in SH3 OTB )

So am playing both
More SH3 than 5 - have to admit as modding SH5 is turning into a real PITA from a campaign POV - while I wait for the next patch
Some of the above may be fixed in that
May not

Certainly wont be removing SH5 anytime in the forseeable future
Nor SH3 come to that
Apples and oranges ATM
And I like both

[robbo180265]

Originally Posted by bigboywooly

Comparing SH5 as is and SH3 after 5 years of modding is a lil one sided

Sure both were buggy on release and after 5 years you think the devs might have picked up on a few things ppl want in a game

Am sure SH5 in 5 years time will be a totally different game than is now

I can see though why ppl keep harping back to SH3 in the majority of these type posts - not SH4 - as there is a certain immersiveness missing from SH5 that SH3 had even OTB
Maybe the graphics are just too good, too bright and shiny
Dont give you that feeling of being cooped up etc

Leaving all the glaring ommissions aside it does seem to lack something

And not sure no amount of mods will cure that
But as I said earlier in 5 years time will be all change

SH3 is like your fave movie
Its comfortable

I know I can run a patrol in SH3 ( modded to f**k ) and come across a different ship every sighting
All sorts of nations and units
I can leave port and see moving cranes and ppl on the docks
Can try a harbour raid and get caught in searchlights from land and guns - providing I succesfully passed the mines and subnets ( ALL in SH3 OTB )

So am playing both
More SH3 than 5 - have to admit as modding SH5 is turning into a real PITA from a campaign POV - while I wait for the next patch
Some of the above may be fixed in that
May not

Certainly wont be removing SH5 anytime in the forseeable future
Nor SH3 come to that
Apples and oranges ATM
And I like both

+1 Excellent post IMO

[7thSeal]

Originally Posted by bigboywooly

and after 5 years you think the devs might have picked up on a few things ppl want in a game

You know they did... but its the ones signing their checks who don't.

[speedbird]

Originally Posted by 7thSeal

Which mods did you try for SH5?

I am still building up the collection and so far (and that was my point in my first post) they are all EXCELLENT!.

What pisses me off is that fifty percent of them if no more are fixes that should have been addressed by the devs before the game is released, that's all...

I know that any game that has the potential to be inproved by the fans is a winner, but there is Beta Testing or in this case Beta "pay for it first" Testing.

[7thSeal]

Originally Posted by speedbird

I am still building up the collection and so far (and that was my point in my first post) they are all EXCELLENT!.

What pisses me off is that fifty percent of them if no more are fixes that should have been addressed by the devs before the game is released, that's all...

In all honesty, I was in your same shoes when I first bought SH3... still play it today with GWX and its only because of those great modders that I still do.

I wouldn't be so quick to push aside what the modders have done so far with SH5 given the short period of time they've had with it. It'll develop with time... usually its our patience that gets in the way.

[bigboywooly]

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigboywooly
and after 5 years you think the devs might have picked up on a few things ppl want in a game

Originally Posted by 7thSeal

You know they did... but its the ones signing their checks who don't.

Cant blame everything on the suits
Am sure they didnt give the devs a brief to take OUT working features such as mines,subnets,land units etc

[KiwiVenge]

Can't but help think you guys got trolled.
A newly created account with so few posts (almost all are this thread) just to state "The game I play is better" . Just seems a bit odd is all.

[7thSeal]

Originally Posted by bigboywooly

Cant blame everything on the suits
Am sure they didnt give the devs a brief to take OUT working features such as mines,subnets,land units etc

You do have a point.

I've been reading in the mods thread of them putting them into the game (land units) but not yet getting them to work properly... with more time perhaps. But what if we set a time limit for them to do this in and its not met.... leave it out?

[speedbird]

Originally Posted by KiwiVenge

Can't but help think you guys got trolled.
A newly created account with so few posts (almost all are this thread) just to state "The game I play is better" . Just seems a bit odd is all.

Well Mister know it all...

New account... yes.

My very first thread... yes

Reason for it? ...

I have never in my thirty years of computer gaming (and in particular sim-gaming) had the urge to give an honest oppinion about a game that sucks as much as this in a public forum.

No doubt the modders will make it much better in the future, but right now IT SUCKS, ok?

Best regards

[John Channing]

Originally Posted by speedbird

I have never in my thirty years of computer gaming (and in particular sim-gaming) had the urge to give an honest oppinion about a game that sucks as much as this in a public forum.

No doubt the modders will make it much better in the future, but right now IT SUCKS, ok?

From the Subsim FAQ: Editorial Policies...

We do not want SUBSIM Review and the Radio Room forums to degenerate into a collection of *This game sux!!!!* and other immature rants.

Oh well... so much for that.

JCC

[bigboywooly]

No time limits really
Things get fixed when ppl really want them fixed and have the skills to do it
Patch may cure some of the issues we have with those
Hope so

Seems there is another bug where near to Icebergs if you go to Ext view camera goes out of sectors
May be a modable fix

The land units I added in may need just a script as doesnt seem to be one for the coastal ai
When someone who can script takes a look it may be sorted
Have no idea with Python but there are plenty here who do

[speedbird]

Originally Posted by John Channing

From the Subsim FAQ: Editorial Policies...



Oh well... so much for that.

JCC

I do apologize fo the comment and I would like to correct it.

The game is not up to standards.

[KiwiVenge]

Originally Posted by speedbird

Well Mister know it all...
I have never in my thirty years of computer gaming (and in particular sim-gaming) had the urge to give an honest oppinion about a game that sucks as much as this in a public forum.

No doubt the modders will make it much better in the future, but right now IT SUCKS, ok?

Best regards

See, it wouldn't of even entered my mind that you may of been just trolling if you gave your honest opinion of what you felt the bad points of the game were in your original post. To simply state something along the lines of -What I play is better and this game will never be as good- comes off as trying to be inflammatory in my opinion.
No biggie though, the Subsim forum members are an understanding lot

Regardless, if you were not trolling my bad for thinking you were and you have my apologies.

[speedbird]

Originally Posted by KiwiVenge

See, it wouldn't of even entered my mind that you may of been just trolling if you gave your honest opinion of what you felt the bad points of the game were in your original post. To simply state something along the lines of -What I play is better and this game will never be as good- comes off as trying to be inflammatory in my opinion.
No biggie though, the Subsim forum members are an understanding lot

Regardless, if you were not trolling my bad for thinking you were and you have my apologies.

What on Satans Earth is "Trolling"???