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Old 04-11-10, 10:51 AM   #16
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@Steed. I'm not a massive fan of an unelected second chamber filled with people whose only qualifcation is that they were born into it either, but given the behavior of the Commons over the last couple of years I'm loathe to remove anything that checks their actions even if it's only a tiny amount. I'm with you on Mandelson, though. I'd have him walk from Land End to John O Groats wearing a sandwich board which says 'I am a corrupt, lying bastard' while neds throw stones at him.
Problem is the House of Lords has no real power, yes it can reject the Green paper and send it back to the Commons and delay it and so on but the government can in the end say up yours its going to be a White paper by bulldozing it though.
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Problem is the House of Lords has no real power, yes it can reject the Green paper and send it back to the Commons and delay it and so on but the government can in the end say up yours its going to be a White paper by bulldozing it though.
True enough but any check, even a time limited one, is better than nothing. what it's supposed to do, of course, is to provide a legislative counter to elected politicians that is supposed to be unhampered by the consideration of winning, a vote allowing them to help legislation by providing more objective eye....You can almost see to aristocracy laughing into their silk handkerchiefs when they thought that little beauty up...
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True enough but any check, even a time limited one, is better than nothing. what it's supposed to do, of course, is to provide a legislative counter to elected politicians that is supposed to be unhampered by the consideration of winning, a vote allowing them to help legislation by providing more objective eye....You can almost see to aristocracy laughing into their silk handkerchiefs when they thought that little beauty up...
I say get rid of the fossils that sit there and get in people who are experts in there fields to monitor and check the government of the day.
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