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Old 03-18-10, 02:08 PM   #1
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are they in any SH game?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedgehog_(weapon)

also mentions squid and limbo anti-submarine weapons, all of which are regarded as more effective than depth charges.
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Old 03-18-10, 02:10 PM   #2
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Old 03-18-10, 02:12 PM   #3
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I think they were in SHIII but I couldn't swear to it.
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Old 03-18-10, 02:14 PM   #4
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Old 03-18-10, 02:16 PM   #5
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I swear that I have seen hedgehogs on a British destroyer in 1939, the item looks exactly like picture on wikipedia. Probably too early to introduce them in 1939.
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Old 03-18-10, 02:32 PM   #6
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I swear that I have seen hedgehogs on a British destroyer in 1939, the item looks exactly like picture on wikipedia. Probably too early to introduce them in 1939.
The first stocks were probably transported to England via Victory ship in 1938.
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Old 03-18-10, 02:36 PM   #7
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I swear that I have seen hedgehogs on a British destroyer in 1939, the item looks exactly like picture on wikipedia. Probably too early to introduce them in 1939.
Way too early

NDD Clemson

[Equipment 6]
NodeName=A01
LinkName=Hhog
StartDate=19440101
EndDate=19451231

NDD Town

[Equipment 6]
NodeName=A01
LinkName=Hhog
StartDate=19430601
EndDate=19451231

NDD V&W

[Equipment 19]
NodeName=W03
LinkName=Hhog
StartDate=19440301
EndDate=19451231

NDD V&W Walker

[Equipment 19]
NodeName=W03
LinkName=Hhog
StartDate=19440301
EndDate=19451231

NDE Buckley

[Equipment 2]
NodeName=M01
LinkName=Hhog
StartDate=19430402
EndDate=19451231

NDE Evarts

[Equipment 3]
NodeName=M02
LinkName=Hhog
StartDate=19430901
EndDate=19451231

Black Swan has it too

When does the game end ?
What month 43 ?

May get to see one on a Buckley - provided it IS ingame and thats not an entry left from SH3\4
And is modelled in the guns_radars_01 GR2 file so hopefully so
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Old 03-18-10, 03:36 PM   #8
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I swear that I have seen hedgehogs on a British destroyer in 1939, the item looks exactly like picture on wikipedia. Probably too early to introduce them in 1939.
I know what you're talking about. From the front it looks like a hedgehog launcher, but actually, it's the 1st anti-aircraft rocket battery which fired 20 x 2" rockets against low level bombing and torpedo attacks. It was designed to launch a swarm of projectiles that fly out from the ship and detonate for shrapnel damage - they didn't home in on a target.

Wikipedia:
"During the 1930s solid fuel rockets were under development in the Soviet Union and Britain. In Britain the interest was for anti-aircraft fire, it quickly became clear that guidance would be required for precision. However, rockets, or 'un-rotated projectiles' as they were called could the used for anti-aircraft barrages. A 2-inch rocket using HE or wire obstacle warheads was introduced first to deal with low-level or dive bombing attacks on smaller targets such as airfields. The 3-inch was in development at the end of the inter-war period..."

Pic of the UP AA Rocket Mount on the KG V@
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNBR_UP.htm

And no they weren't just put on battleships.
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Old 03-18-10, 04:38 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by bigboywooly View Post
Way too early

NDD Clemson

[Equipment 6]
NodeName=A01
LinkName=Hhog
StartDate=19440101
EndDate=19451231

NDD Town

[Equipment 6]
NodeName=A01
LinkName=Hhog
StartDate=19430601
EndDate=19451231

NDD V&W

[Equipment 19]
NodeName=W03
LinkName=Hhog
StartDate=19440301
EndDate=19451231

NDD V&W Walker

[Equipment 19]
NodeName=W03
LinkName=Hhog
StartDate=19440301
EndDate=19451231

NDE Buckley

[Equipment 2]
NodeName=M01
LinkName=Hhog
StartDate=19430402
EndDate=19451231

NDE Evarts

[Equipment 3]
NodeName=M02
LinkName=Hhog
StartDate=19430901
EndDate=19451231

Black Swan has it too

When does the game end ?
What month 43 ?

May get to see one on a Buckley - provided it IS ingame and thats not an entry left from SH3\4
And is modelled in the guns_radars_01 GR2 file so hopefully so
According to Blair, the first recorded use of the Hedgehog in combat was in july-august 1942 by a british destroyer. If I read this file correctly, the first appearance in game is april 1943. The campaign in the game ends in may 1943.
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Old 03-18-10, 04:47 PM   #10
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I swear that I have seen hedgehogs on a British destroyer in 1939, the item looks exactly like picture on wikipedia. Probably too early to introduce them in 1939.
Why not....we already have Sonar and Radar in game in 1939

And if I saw a screenshot correctly...Liberty Cargoo ships as well..
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Old 03-18-10, 04:49 PM   #11
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are they in any SH game?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedgehog_(weapon)

also mentions squid and limbo anti-submarine weapons, all of which are regarded as more effective than depth charges.
Oh and to be On Topic... SH3 absolutely had them.... got sunk by an aggressive group of DDs just off of Gibraltar...I ventrued in to close, DDs all came out and hunted me until one finally ringed me with Hedgehogs.... GWX ROCKS
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Old 03-19-10, 01:22 AM   #12
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So are there HH's in SH5???
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Old 03-19-10, 01:26 AM   #13
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Some of the early finishers of the campaign said HH's were brutal in SH5. I'm still early war though, so haven't seen them yet.
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Old 03-19-10, 02:19 AM   #14
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