What you need to know about SH5 and cracks.........

[DJSatane]

Consumers: -1

Consumers are -9999999 no matter how you slice it, the state of this game is awful not to mentions bugs that existed since sh3 and were well known are in the game.

[Buckie]

iam glad i never bought it now, piracy is good for beta testing.

[GREY WOLF 3]

The word crack is banned,so why has ubisoft just done it,they called it a patch,its the same thing changing your files, there is a lot of good patch sites out there and they work perfect , OK some don't,that is up to you.if you prefer not to use them don't.I don't, I went to one of my grandsons today he got it for nothing the game runs perfectthen he showed me 5 sites with free download to the game,you will never stop those.Maybe if this game was released in a descent state more people would buy it legit and not down load from the to check it out because of the bad reviews

Just had to vent my anger sorry if I've upset other members
Going down the pub now to get pissed

[JG52Krupi]

http://www.incgamers.com/News/21285/...s-not-complete

to sum up UBI have followed the trend set by Batman Arkham Asylum and have released a game missing a large portion of its contents which will be activated by a patch at some point, this approach failed on the Batman game (which was amazing btw) as the hackers and programmers were able to find the game breaking areas and fix these intentional bugs.

From UBI response I am pretty sure this is the case with SH5.

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

http://www.incgamers.com/News/21285/...s-not-complete

to sum up we UBI have followed the trend set by Batman Arkham Asylum and have released a game missing a large portion of its contents which will be activated by a patch at some point, this approach failed on the Batman game (which was amazing btw) as the hackers and programmers were able to find the game breaking areas and fix these intentional bugs.

From UBI response I am pretty sure this is the case with SH5.

there is no "secret lock box" where content is stored so a game gotten by unscrupulous means will be just as complete as any legal version. it might even have a few little extras like data miners or trojans in it

what it probably is is they have some data kept on their servers to trigger certain things in the game to retrieve data or instruct it to select the next mission.

if thats not it then maybe they think the patches are somehow more secure then the game was and this is the "missing" content they refer to but anything released to legit users WILL find its way to the and those who use their stuff.

[Engine]

Originally Posted by Nufsed

I think this point of view is rather misguided. Whatever view you have regarding DRM, Ubisoft have a right to protect their investment. I think it very unlikely that the SH series of software; the heart of our hobby, would ever have seen the light of day and have become available to so many people without companies like Ubisoft. I believe "most" of the guys (or girls) serious about Sumarine simulation will buy these games "regardless", that also goes for flight sims and any other niche product. I said this before and I'll say it again; Slient Hunter 5 will develop over time (with the modders help) into "probably" the best sub sim in the World.

Hi Nufsed,

To clarify, I should mention that while I strongly dislike DRM (I feel that it primarily alienates paying customers rather than serving its intended purpose), I do believe that companies have a right to protect their products and so I deal with some forms of DRM... However, there is a line I will draw as to how severe a DRM solution I will tolerate, and this is the case with Ubisoft. I don't feel that your point regarding Ubi being the only ones to make a decent sub sim applies; sure, a great niche game deserves all the praise in the world, but it's completely separate from the DRM issue.

To Reece,
Thanks for the kind welcome!

[jerm138]

If your internet connection is stable and fast enough to download it illegally, shouldn't it be adequate enough to run the game with the DRM?

Just sayin'

[etheberge]

From the UBI statement:

“Rumor control: any gamer who downloads and plays a cracked version of #AC2 and #SH5 will find that their version is not complete.”

Technically, even those of us who bought the game have a version that is far, far from complete so I fail to see the difference.

If they are talking about the patches then even those are being cracked too so what's their point?

Maybe they're saying that if you crack the game then you'll experience strange behavior like with the FADE protection from a while back? Perhaps things like not being able to steer to a certain heading, having you crew stay on deck when submerged or not being able to respond to orders, dying of CO2 poisoning while surfaced, etc.

Oh wait....

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Buckie

iam glad i never bought it now, piracy is good for beta testing.

Eh?

[flag4]

does any one remember 'Home Taping is Killing Music' label on the old lp's sleeve?

did it kill music? no, i dont think so. music industries still make mega bucks.

i dont think games companies lose that much either: there must be a calculated allowance for loss to piracy. i suspect if the game is fantastic sales will outstrip piracy; after all, who wants a potentially cocked up pirtate download, the game is already reduced in price by nearly £10 on amazon. even my children who recieve a little pocket money could afford this game ( if they wanted it ) in a month - it aint that expensive. i think the thrill for pirates is in the cracking and boasting. i for one would not download a pirate copy. Hell! i could get an original from ebay in 6-12 months from a certified seller, maybe for £15-20.

whats more interesting is the length/amount of these threads and the ping pong back and to comments that never seem to go any where and the repetition of plee's not to cross subsim boundaries

the first post expalins it all - clearly, no?

god knows what the devs are feeling - maybe they will be glad to rinse their hands of it - leaving it to the modders.

like my mum used to say " if you dont like whats on telly you can always turn it off."

night night

[Riksa]

Apparently 'incomplete' means that parts of game data will be downloaded on the fly. I've heard reports of pirates not seeing any missions to choose from or something like that. Presumably AC2 will also download missions or something similar that isn't included on the disc or within the downloaded installer.

[utops]

For Sh5 missing content it is not big deal, because supermods often overwrite stock campaigns and missions ... at least i hope so.

[Wolfehunter]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

No, no, it's nothing to do with me getting into trouble. There are hundreds of forums where people talk about cracks, game companies don't bother with them. It's because I think it's wrong to download games one doesn't pay for. Period. Especially submarine games, it will kill the hobby. And if we start discussing cracks, it will lead to worse.

I don't want to debate that, it's my opinion, nothing new.

I can respect this neal.

By the way neal you could make special avatars for the crackers.... Like polly want a cracker who never learn... parrots or such.. hehehe..

[gutted]

The crack is only 99.9% complete.

It's totally playable with it, but you'll be missing out on one very minor detail (which is actually a major detail) that may not be readily apparent at first glance.

And no don't ask me what it is. I can spot who's using it now.

Go out and buy it like i did, and lets hope after 6 months or a year when the price of the game drops they remove the online thing.

[jwilliams]

Originally Posted by gutted

The crack is only 99.9% complete.

It's totally playable with it, but you'll be missing out on one very minor detail (which is actually a major detail) that may not be readily apparent at first glance.

And no don't ask me what it is. I can spot who's using it now.

Go out and buy it like i did, and lets hope after 6 months or a year when the price of the game drops they remove the online thing.

Unless this minor (major) detail makes the game unplayable, then whats the point?

to know who has a pirated copy isnt going to help them stop using the pirated version.

If it does make the game unplayable then..... lol at the pirates