[TEC] In-Game whiz weel - Page 2

don1reed · 03-03-10, 05:10 AM

gutted, it might be worth while pointing out that the Angriffsschreibe provided above by joegrundman and Hitman is an exact copy of the one that now sits in the Royal Navy Submarine Museum, Gosport, UK. It's what the Kreigsmarine really used.

joegrundman · 03-03-10, 05:13 AM

i think if he cared about historical feel, he'd have used the actual USN submarine attack course finder rather than the primary colours tool above

Hitman · 03-03-10, 08:23 AM

Does this one look easier to the eyes? It's already implemented in my WIP interface for SH3, but I can give you teh graphics if you are interested.

Flopper · 03-03-10, 08:37 AM

Now y'all are making me consider ordering a new machine. It's all of these tools and wheels and gizmos that keep me in sh3 instead of sh4.

reaper7 · 03-03-10, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Hitman

Does this one look easier to the eyes? It's already implemented in my WIP interface for SH3, but I can give you teh graphics if you are interested.

Hitman that has a great look to it. The SH3 interface you talk about have you dial and gauges art as well. Would like to do up some UI graphics for SH5, but finding it hard to find references to the dials used in the type VII's

Sailor Steve · 03-03-10, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Hitman

Does this one look easier to the eyes? It's already implemented in my WIP interface for SH3, but I can give you teh graphics if you are interested.

If your original was a good copy of the real one, what in the bouncing blue blazes is that?

Whatever it is, it looks cool.

gutted · 03-03-10, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

If your original was a good copy of the real one, what in the bouncing blue blazes is that?

Whatever it is, it looks cool.

Ditto, im kinda confused lookin at it. At first galnce, it seems like it's missing something but i can't put my finger on it.

How do you work it?

GDFTigerTank · 03-03-10, 03:33 PM

Outer Ring - reading of target heading relative to your periscope view (you set it)
Inner Ring - Compass heading of your boat. (automatic input I think)

Black Needle - shows you AOB based on Outer and Inner Ring.

I believe.

Ex.:

So lets say you're traveling due west at 270*
The inner ring points to 270 automatically.

Using your periscope you spot a ship 20 degrees to starboard on course due South 180*
You dial in his course on the outer Dial as 180*

The black needle will then have moved to show AOB of 110 degrees to take into account 90 degree difference between your heading and target + 20 degrees for the periscope heading.

Flopper · 03-04-10, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Hitman

Does this one look easier to the eyes? It's already implemented in my WIP interface for SH3, but I can give you teh graphics if you are interested.

Hitman, I've looked around but can't seem to locate your sh3 wip interface mod. Is it available in any form for download? Looks amazing!

Hitman · 03-04-10, 08:25 AM

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If your original was a good copy of the real one, what in the bouncing blue blazes is that?

It's a different model of wiz-wheel, also issued to Uboats

I have a pic of real one.

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Ditto, im kinda confused lookin at it. At first galnce, it seems like it's missing something but i can't put my finger on it.

How do you work it?

It has one dial less, because this one works with true bearings, and not with relative ones. The lettering in the wheel explains as function nº 1 how to convert relative bearings into true, but given how it works in the game, it is done automatically. The only thing you need to move at all is the central white dial with the black arrow.

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Outer Ring - reading of target heading relative to your periscope view (you set it)
Inner Ring - Compass heading of your boat. (automatic input I think)

Black Needle - shows you AOB based on Outer and Inner Ring.

I believe.

Humm not exactly. It works like this:

Outer black dial: Shows true course of your uboat, at the top of it. Since this is just a clone copy of the compass in the Uboat, it will rotate automatically.

Pointer: Shows your line of sight, i.e. where your periscope or UZO are trained at. You must obviously aim at the target.

Just with those two, you can already know the true (relative to north, and not to your uboat's bow) bearing to target.

Inner white dial: The only one you will rotate manually. Represents target course and AOB. What you do is eyebal the target's AOb, and rotate the dial until that number matches the arrow in the pointer marked as "Lagewinkel" (German for AOB). Then you can read the target's true course in the outer black wheel, by looking at where the black pointer in the white wheel indicates.

Inversely, you can put the known target true course (If you have run paralell to him and know it already) and read AOB from the pointer.

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Hitman, I've looked around but can't seem to locate your sh3 wip interface mod. Is it available in any form for download? Looks amazing!

It's WIP and in Beta status, and being tested by some guys in the SH3 forum. If you want the templates in bigger size and res for use in SH5, shoot me a PM and I will send you a link to them.

Flopper · 03-04-10, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Hitman

It's WIP and in Beta status, and being tested by some guys in the SH3 forum. If you want the templates in bigger size and res for use in SH5, shoot me a PM and I will send you a link to them.

I'm still on the fence about shv, but teetering heavily toward the "I'll just wait, for now" side of it. Very interested in your work, though, and looking forward to its release! If you need more beta testers, please let me know.

GDFTigerTank · 03-04-10, 09:54 AM

Hitman,

Thanks for the correction and explanation. I can't wait to see this working in Silent Hunter 5!

03-03-10, 05:10 AM	#16
don1reed Ace of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Valhalla: Silent Generation Posts: 1,149 Downloads: 910 Uploads: 0	gutted, it might be worth while pointing out that the Angriffsschreibe provided above by joegrundman and Hitman is an exact copy of the one that now sits in the Royal Navy Submarine Museum, Gosport, UK. It's what the Kreigsmarine really used. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. ~ George Orwell Last edited by don1reed; 03-03-10 at 09:02 AM.

03-03-10, 05:13 AM	#17
joegrundman Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,689 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	i think if he cared about historical feel, he'd have used the actual USN submarine attack course finder rather than the primary colours tool above __________________ "Enemy submarines are to be called U-Boats. The term submarine is to be reserved for Allied under water vessels. U-Boats are those dastardly villains who sink our ships, while submarines are those gallant and noble craft which sink theirs." Winston Churchill

03-03-10, 08:23 AM	#18
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,109 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	Does this one look easier to the eyes? It's already implemented in my WIP interface for SH3, but I can give you teh graphics if you are interested. __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

03-03-10, 03:33 PM	#23
GDFTigerTank Machinist's Mate Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 121 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 0	Outer Ring - reading of target heading relative to your periscope view (you set it) Inner Ring - Compass heading of your boat. (automatic input I think) Black Needle - shows you AOB based on Outer and Inner Ring. I believe. Ex.: So lets say you're traveling due west at 270* The inner ring points to 270 automatically. Using your periscope you spot a ship 20 degrees to starboard on course due South 180* You dial in his course on the outer Dial as 180* The black needle will then have moved to show AOB of 110 degrees to take into account 90 degree difference between your heading and target + 20 degrees for the periscope heading. Last edited by GDFTigerTank; 03-03-10 at 03:45 PM.

03-03-10, 08:37 AM	#19
Flopper Weps Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Asheville, NC, USA Posts: 356 Downloads: 107 Uploads: 0	Now y'all are making me consider ordering a new machine. It's all of these tools and wheels and gizmos that keep me in sh3 instead of sh4.

03-04-10, 09:54 AM	#27
GDFTigerTank Machinist's Mate Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 121 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 0	Hitman, Thanks for the correction and explanation. I can't wait to see this working in Silent Hunter 5!