Hmph - Page 3

subsimlee · 03-01-10, 04:17 PM

Cheers!

gutted · 03-01-10, 04:19 PM

Yeah, i just been playing with it.

And now that i "see the light", i think it's awesome you can type in the values.

I would prefer a better AOB entry control though. I much prferred the more natural SHIV dial than the SH3 "scraatchpad one". I want to rotate a ship so it matches my scope.. not rotate an arrow around a stationary ship image.

ddrgn · 03-01-10, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gutted

Yeah, i just been playing with it.

And now that i "see the light", i think it's awesome you can type in the values.

I would prefer a better AOB entry control though. I much prferred the more natural SHIV dial than the SH3 "scraatchpad one". I want to rotate a ship so it matches my scope.. not rotate an arrow around a stationary ship image.

I type in the AOB once I have done the math I never touch that dial on the notepad.

gutted · 03-01-10, 04:36 PM

Yes, but there are some times when you'd want to do it visually.

Atleast it's linked to the scope. So you only have to set it once.

karamazovnew · 03-01-10, 05:21 PM

wowowow, wait, you can TYPE values?! Oh god please tell me this is not just for a few hardcoded items, please please....

Gutted, can you post a pic when typing the value for range for example?
And question, once you set a TDC solution, save and load the game. Does the game remember those values?

gutted · 03-01-10, 05:26 PM

I dunno if it saves the solution.. but one thing i noticed is that currently it does not save any of your map plotting. Bummer.

As for typing, you can type in the AOB, the Range, the Bearing & the Speed.

The TDC entry is menu driven. You have to click the range hotlink, then go to the next page and type it.. then back out.. and select speed etc. etc. Somewhat combersome.. but pretty nifty that we can finally type.

I'd still like some dials. I dont really care for the menu version.

karamazovnew · 03-01-10, 06:54 PM

I hate dials. No wonder after I had to make 50 dials for KiUB

derblaueClaus · 03-01-10, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

And the devs said they were going to make this game easier for the casual players

Exactly what i thought when I read through this Thread. Its still a little confusing for me but its gettin better post by post so keep the information coming. And by the way good to hear that you can type in those data.

ERPP8 · 03-01-10, 07:55 PM

Just use the manual targeting.

Philipp_Thomsen · 03-01-10, 07:56 PM

There should be 3 options:

1) Manual TDC - You do everything manually.
2) Auto TDC - You lock and fire.
3) WO Assist - You point and ask him, after 10-20 seconds the guy comes up with the data and send it to the TDC.

3 is the most realistic, imo.

capthelm · 03-01-10, 08:04 PM

by the time you do al the manual targeting and input, the target has sailed off into the sunset..

longam · 03-01-10, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by capthelm

by the time you do al the manual targeting and input, the target has sailed off into the sunset..

He has a point!

Bilge_Rat · 03-01-10, 08:55 PM

well I checked and Gutted was right, with manual TDC and map updates off, the map shows a predicted path for a locked ship which appears to be accurate.

As an experiment, I tried plugging in a solution in the TDC which was clearly wrong and then turning TDC off, but the path still appeared to follow the locked ship's true path.

This will have to be looked at in greater detail, it's a bit too gamey for my taste...

gutted · 03-01-10, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

well I checked and Gutted was right, with manual TDC and map updates off, the map shows a predicted path for a locked ship which appears to be accurate.

As an experiment, I tried plugging in a solution in the TDC which was clearly wrong and then turning TDC off, but the path still appeared to follow the locked ship's true path.

This will have to be looked at in greater detail, it's a bit too gamey for my taste...

I dunno if it needs to be looked at. It's not like you're forced to use it, and ignoring it is as simple as not disabling the TDC.

ironkross · 03-02-10, 12:24 AM

After seeing these screenies and reading the discussion of targeting I'm really jonesing for this game now.

As one who was in the wait and see crowd, it's going to be hard not to pick up a game if I come across one in a store.

03-01-10, 07:56 PM	#40
Philipp_Thomsen Old Gang Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Drunk at the whorehouse Posts: 2,278 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	There should be 3 options: 1) Manual TDC - You do everything manually. 2) Auto TDC - You lock and fire. 3) WO Assist - You point and ask him, after 10-20 seconds the guy comes up with the data and send it to the TDC. 3 is the most realistic, imo. __________________ To each his own

03-01-10, 08:04 PM	#41
capthelm Captain Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 522 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	by the time you do al the manual targeting and input, the target has sailed off into the sunset.. __________________ "One torpedo ... one ship" my SH5 lighting mod http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkM5k8SXpWo my SH5 audio mod http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIN5RHeL8B8

03-01-10, 08:55 PM	#43
Bilge_Rat Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: standing watch... Posts: 3,856 Downloads: 344 Uploads: 0	well I checked and Gutted was right, with manual TDC and map updates off, the map shows a predicted path for a locked ship which appears to be accurate. As an experiment, I tried plugging in a solution in the TDC which was clearly wrong and then turning TDC off, but the path still appeared to follow the locked ship's true path. This will have to be looked at in greater detail, it's a bit too gamey for my taste... __________________

03-02-10, 12:24 AM	#45
ironkross Lieutenant Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Seneca, SC, USA Posts: 251 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	After seeing these screenies and reading the discussion of targeting I'm really jonesing for this game now. As one who was in the wait and see crowd, it's going to be hard not to pick up a game if I come across one in a store. __________________ If you want to go fast, go alone. If you want to go far, go together.

03-01-10, 04:17 PM	#31
subsimlee Mate Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 55 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	Cheers!

03-01-10, 04:19 PM	#32
gutted The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Orleans, LA. Posts: 1,379 Downloads: 487 Uploads: 11	Yeah, i just been playing with it. And now that i "see the light", i think it's awesome you can type in the values. I would prefer a better AOB entry control though. I much prferred the more natural SHIV dial than the SH3 "scraatchpad one". I want to rotate a ship so it matches my scope.. not rotate an arrow around a stationary ship image.

03-01-10, 04:36 PM	#34
gutted The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Orleans, LA. Posts: 1,379 Downloads: 487 Uploads: 11	Yes, but there are some times when you'd want to do it visually. Atleast it's linked to the scope. So you only have to set it once.

03-01-10, 05:21 PM	#35
karamazovnew The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 1,403 Downloads: 151 Uploads: 0	wowowow, wait, you can TYPE values?! Oh god please tell me this is not just for a few hardcoded items, please please.... Gutted, can you post a pic when typing the value for range for example? And question, once you set a TDC solution, save and load the game. Does the game remember those values?

03-01-10, 05:26 PM	#36
gutted The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Orleans, LA. Posts: 1,379 Downloads: 487 Uploads: 11	I dunno if it saves the solution.. but one thing i noticed is that currently it does not save any of your map plotting. Bummer. As for typing, you can type in the AOB, the Range, the Bearing & the Speed. The TDC entry is menu driven. You have to click the range hotlink, then go to the next page and type it.. then back out.. and select speed etc. etc. Somewhat combersome.. but pretty nifty that we can finally type. I'd still like some dials. I dont really care for the menu version.

03-01-10, 06:54 PM	#37
karamazovnew The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 1,403 Downloads: 151 Uploads: 0	I hate dials. No wonder after I had to make 50 dials for KiUB

03-01-10, 07:55 PM	#39
ERPP8 Commodore Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: My House Posts: 608 Downloads: 161 Uploads: 0	Just use the manual targeting.