Support the Community - DONT BUY SHV

If 61% of the voting subsim community have voted against buying till DRM is removed then surely the other 39% of the subsim community should support their fellows by at least holding off from purchase for a few weeks so that UBI get the hint ?

So if you buy then you're working against the majority of subsim members.

I accept this is a controversial stance.....but surely it would be nice to help support your community ?

Cheers, UG

[Noren]

Im sure not everybody will agree to this, Im for one is not buying until the DRM is cast aside and the game is something more than just flashy graphics.

Hopefully we can get the idea across to the developers.

[Darkhat]

Even if we don't buy it, the DRM won't probably be removed, I mean, we are not like millions of members at subsim, they won't lose too much money.

On the other side, if we don't buy, maybe there won't be another silent hunter .

And on the third side, the new DRM isn't installing malware or rootkit on your computer like securom, at least it seems so, an I think it should work out fine.

So as what it seems, if everyone buy this, we support the community by making the developers rich and able to make another silent hunter game with whatever we'd like. I dunno but I will buy it.

[Letum]

You won't change anyone's mind with a post like this.
You are more likely just to piss people off.

Me included.

[mookiemookie]

I'm going to buy it on Tuesday and take a picture of me caressing it. I will do this simply to rub it in the faces of people like you who are trying to bully and shame me into not buying it.

I really wish you would all quit with this attitude. Letum's right - you're pissing people off. Me included also.

[Wolfehunter]

Originally Posted by Darkhat

Even if we don't buy it, the DRM won't probably be removed, I mean, we are not like millions of members at subsim, they won't lose too much money.

On the other side, if we don't buy, maybe there won't be another silent hunter .

And on the third side, the new DRM isn't installing malware or rootkit on your computer like securom, at least it seems so, an I think it should work out fine.

So as what it seems, if everyone buy this, we support the community by making the developers rich and able to make another silent hunter game with whatever we'd like. I dunno but I will buy it.

Dude there are other ways to support Subsim by donating instead of paying for a crappy game. Ubi has lost me in there last crap game there putting out. There not getting my support. If that means this is there last SH game so be it. I didn't ask for this to happen. They didn't listen to there fans. They don't care about us, why should I care about them.

You want to help neal. Support by donating.

Neal though.. you may need to broaden your game selections in the future since ubi's gone wako...

[urfisch]

Originally Posted by Wolfehunter

Dude there are other ways to support Subsim by donating instead of paying for a crappy game. Ubi has lost me in there last crap game there putting out. There not getting my support. If that means this is there last SH game so be it. I didn't ask for this to happen. They didn't listen to there fans. They don't care about us, why should I care about them.

You want to help neal. Support by donating.

Neal though.. you may need to broaden your game selections in the future since ubi's gone wako...

agreed!

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

I'm going to buy it on Tuesday and take a picture of me caressing it. I will do this simply to rub it in the faces of people like you who are trying to bully and shame me into not buying it.

I really wish you would all quit with this attitude. Letum's right - you're pissing people off. Me included also.

I'm one of the people NOT buying it, and I'm starting to get pissed off by this kind of garbage posting too.

[ReFaN]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

I'm going to buy it on Tuesday and take a picture of me caressing it. I will do this simply to rub it in the faces of people like you who are trying to bully and shame me into not buying it.

I really wish you would all quit with this attitude. Letum's right - you're pissing people off. Me included also.

im going to do more then caress it, going to make a hole an... ehm.

Im going to buy it atleast.

[Méo]

Originally Posted by Letum

You won't change anyone's mind with a post like this.
You are more likely just to piss people off.

Me included.

Agreed.

Stop insulting people who disagree with you or don't share the same level of outrage.

Stop dictating what people should do or not do.

Stop saying what is crap when you never tested it and especially when you never offer a better solution.

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Present some real & objective debate with concrete evidence and you will maybe convince me.

Until there my decision remain unchanged.

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Edit: The Stop isn't an order, this is only a suggestion if you want to gain credibility, at least for me.

[oscar19681]

Originally Posted by Uber Gruber

If 61% of the voting subsim community have voted against buying till DRM is removed then surely the other 39% of the subsim community should support their fellows by at least holding off from purchase for a few weeks so that UBI get the hint ?

So if you buy then you're working against the majority of subsim members.

I accept this is a controversial stance.....but surely it would be nice to help support your community ?

Cheers, UG

I refuse to hold back on a purchase because some statistic says 60% is agains purchase untill DRM is released . Allthough i understand you point of view and i am most certainly against DRM. I however feel that if you prevent or hold back purchases of sh-5 you could actually hurt the subsim community and submarinse simulations as a whole more then you actually realize. You essectially feel that you are some sort of hypthecal freedom fighter while in reality your nothing more then a hypothetical terrorist

[ichso]

I think people should stop wondering how their buy/refusal to buy will affect this community and the genre as a whole.
I you expect to like it: buy it. If you expect to not like it, for whatever reason, don't buy it.

And @UG: people who have their gripes with the game and/or DRM won't buy it anyway, and I don't believe that you can sway many - if anybody at all - who already made his decision to buy.

I for my part am not buying it right now because I simply have not enough time right now to really get into this game. This at least allows me to await a lot of reviews, impressions and feedback about how the whole DRM disaster turns out to be in reality.

[Méo]

Originally Posted by oscar19681

I refuse to hold back on a purchase because some statistic says 60% is agains purchase untill DRM is released . Allthough i understand you point of view and i am most certainly against DRM. I however feel that if you prevent or hold back purchases of sh-5 you could actually hurt the subsim community and submarinse simulations as a whole more then you actually realize. You essectially feel that you are some sort of hypthecal freedom fighter while in reality your nothing more then a hypothetical terrorist

I understand what you mean Oscar and I agree with you to some extend.

But the ''hypothetical terrorist'' is really harsh, remember some of them may change their mind if everything goes alright with SHV, they will still be welcome.

Anyone can change their mind.

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Edit: sorry, I read hypocritical instead of hypothetical, anyway I think you know what I mean.

[guynoir]

Originally Posted by oscar19681

... hypothetical terrorist

Hypothetical terrorist?? Hah... that's a laugh.

[piri_reis]

This has been discussed before and all views have been expressed. Now please let people decide what they want to do.. This is not the correct way to act.

You can not start a thread in a SH5 Forum, asking people to support this forum by not buying the game !

I support a stand against the DRM but this is just not how it should be done.