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08-18-05, 10:52 AM

Nobody likes a stooly

Gizzmoe · 08-18-05, 10:56 AM

WhatÂ´s a "stooly"?

Gizzmoe · 08-18-05, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cdr Gibs

Nobody likes a stooly

Ok, now I know... A "snitch". You mean me! How kind. Well... <shrug> I donÂ´t like people who simply donÂ´t give a **** about the rules over and over again.

John Channing · 08-18-05, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gizzmoe

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cdr Gibs

Nobody likes a stooly

Ok, now I know... A "snitch". You mean me! How kind. Well... <shrug> I donÂ´t like people who simply donÂ´t give a **** about the rules over and over again.

No one snitched, I happened upon this charming discussion all on my own. You just never know when a Moderator is going to show up.

And to Gizzmoe... a great big THANK-YOU for your help.

JCC

Onkel Neal · 08-18-05, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RAM

they have a pretty big disclaimer in their start page saying that the page itself and it's contents are to be used only by those who are legal owners of the games they download cracks for...and it's indeed used by many legal customers who simply don't want to be changing CDs all day long to start the games they own. I have been one of them several times in the past. And to be true, if there was a no-DVD crack for SHIII v1.4b, I would be using it right now. And I'm a legal customer and owner of SHIII.

So no, IMO, that's not an illegal site as they don't support piracy. That many people who use it are pirates is not their fault...then again, we all know there are many more places to get no-CD cracks ,and much easier than that way, than on web pages so in the end who cares...

Hi Ram,

We have no way of knowing if a guy is telling the truth when he says he has to use cracks and hacks to play a game. But don't laugh at me when I point out that most people play the game without these things. I've never had to resort to that and I've played literally hundreds of games. Of course, there are exceptions--some guy is going to buy a game and blasted luck will keep it from working. I sympathize with him, but as the Register Agreement of this forum states, the Subsim forum is not the place to discuss hacks, no DVD cracks, serial number workarounds, etc. We do encourage tips such as driver info, config settings, normal setup stuff. I'll be honest, it's hard to draw the line perfectly; still, if we open up this box, it sends the wrong message and probably will invite the wrong people to say the wrong things. We ask for you and everyone's voluntary assistance on this forum to honor the rules.

thanks
Neal

RAM · 08-19-05, 08:13 AM

Neal:

First of all thanks for this great page.

Probably you don't remember me from the old forums, but I've been around for a long time. I do understand the need for the rules as they are on the forum right now. I've seen by myself what happens in a forum where open discussions about hacks, cracks, etc, is allowed, and I won't like that kind of people roaming free around here.

I admit I have gone too far by myself on another thread some days ago when I was still stuck with v1.0 and a thread with some starforce-circunvent advices was active. And that I have been stuck with the original version for more than one month because issues which are not my fault at all, makes me sympathize with anyone who has similar problems. I really was expecting for summer to come so I could be at home to buy and play SHIII (can't do with my laptop as the graphics card isn't compatible with the game requirements). You can imagine how I felt when I found out the game won't even start...

That's not an excuse. The rules are what they are and I really went over the top there. Have said I'm sorry about that, and I say it again...but...

Seem, while I'm in full agreement of the rules of the board, I'm for a more ample interpretation of them. What do I mean?...well, if someone comes like on this thread saying "hey SHIII doesn't work even if I put a no-DVD crack on it" I think the best way to answer is not "dude, go away, we don't help people who use cracks here"... something along the lines of "try it without the crack and we will gladly help, as the rules say that no-DVD crack issues can be discussed here" would be much better...

I know for sure that many people around here didn't try to help me with my problem with starforce for the simple reason I was using a crack to play, at least, the v1.0. Many others did indeed try to help me (and I thank them for it). We've seen that the guy who started the thread has got little ,very little, of true advice.

I'm all for the rules as they are set, and for not allowing discussions about cracks, but I'm all,too, for treating people as innocent customers instead of pirates.
I know piracy is very damaging for games like SHIII, but we can't go into a ortodox frency of thinking "if you're using a crack, that's because you don't own the original" each time someone asks for help and admits is using a crack to play the game because it won't run otherwise.

My main problem is not with the rules of the board. They are clear and they have good reasons to exist. My problem is with people who not only won't try help anyone forced to use a crack while being a legal customer, but they actually fall very short of saying "pi$$ off, dude, this's not the place"... or who will say that they will try to get someone banned because they have different thoughts on a given webpage than the one who linked it. I know they have good interests, but,well, I don't like radical attitudes in any way...

In short: I'd like to see a more open-minded interpretation of a set of rules I understand fully.

But that's just me

.

Hope that what I've written is understandable...my english is getting terribly rusty because of lack of use...

08-18-05, 10:52 AM	#31
Cdre Gibs Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Nobody likes a stooly

08-18-05, 10:56 AM	#32
Gizzmoe Silent Hunter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 3,668 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	WhatÂ´s a "stooly"?

08-19-05, 08:13 AM	#36
RAM Machinist's Mate Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 130 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	Neal: First of all thanks for this great page. Probably you don't remember me from the old forums, but I've been around for a long time. I do understand the need for the rules as they are on the forum right now. I've seen by myself what happens in a forum where open discussions about hacks, cracks, etc, is allowed, and I won't like that kind of people roaming free around here. I admit I have gone too far by myself on another thread some days ago when I was still stuck with v1.0 and a thread with some starforce-circunvent advices was active. And that I have been stuck with the original version for more than one month because issues which are not my fault at all, makes me sympathize with anyone who has similar problems. I really was expecting for summer to come so I could be at home to buy and play SHIII (can't do with my laptop as the graphics card isn't compatible with the game requirements). You can imagine how I felt when I found out the game won't even start... That's not an excuse. The rules are what they are and I really went over the top there. Have said I'm sorry about that, and I say it again...but... Seem, while I'm in full agreement of the rules of the board, I'm for a more ample interpretation of them. What do I mean?...well, if someone comes like on this thread saying "hey SHIII doesn't work even if I put a no-DVD crack on it" I think the best way to answer is not "dude, go away, we don't help people who use cracks here"... something along the lines of "try it without the crack and we will gladly help, as the rules say that no-DVD crack issues can be discussed here" would be much better... I know for sure that many people around here didn't try to help me with my problem with starforce for the simple reason I was using a crack to play, at least, the v1.0. Many others did indeed try to help me (and I thank them for it). We've seen that the guy who started the thread has got little ,very little, of true advice. I'm all for the rules as they are set, and for not allowing discussions about cracks, but I'm all,too, for treating people as innocent customers instead of pirates. I know piracy is very damaging for games like SHIII, but we can't go into a ortodox frency of thinking "if you're using a crack, that's because you don't own the original" each time someone asks for help and admits is using a crack to play the game because it won't run otherwise. My main problem is not with the rules of the board. They are clear and they have good reasons to exist. My problem is with people who not only won't try help anyone forced to use a crack while being a legal customer, but they actually fall very short of saying "pi$$ off, dude, this's not the place"... or who will say that they will try to get someone banned because they have different thoughts on a given webpage than the one who linked it. I know they have good interests, but,well, I don't like radical attitudes in any way... In short: I'd like to see a more open-minded interpretation of a set of rules I understand fully. But that's just me . Hope that what I've written is understandable...my english is getting terribly rusty because of lack of use...