When will you buy the game?

[The General]

How can you honestly say you're a Subsim fan and not buy this ASAP?! I want everyone in this community to pay full-price so that there's a better chance of another sequel. If you can afford a computer to run SH5, you can afford the full-price.

[Kapitanleutnant]

Just because people can that doesn't mean they are obligated to pay full price for a stripped-down half game.

[Carotio]

Originally Posted by The General

How can you honestly say you're a Subsim fan and not buy this ASAP?! I want everyone in this community to pay full-price so that there's a better chance of another sequel. If you can afford a computer to run SH5, you can afford the full-price.

How can someone honestly say you're a Subsim fan and settle for half a game for full price, and not demand the full game?
You can demand all you want from the rest of us, but it's not only a question of being able to afford it. It certainly is for some/a lot, but the most important matter is that a lot consider it to be half a game: only one type instead of 3 or 4 and not the entire war.

If ubisoft delivers half a product, they better expect half income. Give the dev team more time to at least add the II and IX. And they can then concentrate on the late war later with more types and extra technology in an add on. Only then, is it acceptable to me.

[Lanzfeld]

Originally Posted by The General

How can you honestly say you're a Subsim fan and not buy this ASAP?! I want everyone in this community to pay full-price so that there's a better chance of another sequel. If you can afford a computer to run SH5, you can afford the full-price.

But if each sequel gets worse and worse why pay into such a system?

[Deep Dive]

I will buy one copy ASAP

If it is good i will buy some more as gifts to friends

[The General]

@Carotio and Kaptainleutant

I think you two should play the game before you claim it's a half a game. The Devs have said there is way more content and depth than ever before and I believe it! It'll be very hard to make it to May 1943 without dying alot, it'll keep you going for months and that's not including Multiplayer. A game that keeps you entertained for months is all that you can realistically hope for.

@Lanzfield

Each sequel has gotten better, to claim otherwise is asinine.

[FIREWALL]

When Hell freezes over and it's in the Ebay bargain bin.

[The General]

Originally Posted by FIREWALL

When Hell freezes over and it's in the Ebay bargain bin.

Huh? You have SIlent Hunter V in your signature!

[Carotio]

Originally Posted by The General

@Carotio and Kaptainleutant

I think you two should play the game before you claim it's a half a game. The Devs have said there is way more content and depth than ever before and I believe it!

I saw a preview of the game at the Copenhagen Meet, so I KNOW there's new content, and I liked what I saw. No doubt there.

But still, focusing entirely on ONE uboat type still makes it valid to call it half a game. And if a substantial large group of the potential customers think that way, I would say, the producer should really rethink the strategies and investments and maybe consider a longer development time.

Then let me ask you: what if they truely said: Because of numerous constructive criticism, we have decided to postpone the release till December 2010 to add more content. We're going to build in the types II and IX too.
Would you survive it if you then had to wait longer and pay a little more, because they had to spend more money for the development?

I think I would, and I also think others would.
And I sincerely think, they would gain many more customers paying the full price.

[Kapitanleutnant]

Originally Posted by The General

@Carotio and Kaptainleutant
I think you two should play the game before you claim it's a half a game.

One doesn't need to play it to know that two of the three most common boat types are missing, and that the entire last third of the war is simply not there.

And what makes it worse is that Ubi are touting these things as "features".
If they'd just came out and said "sorry guys, we didn't have the time or resources to do this" I'd be much less offended. Instead they're trying to act like this was their big plan and that by cutting features they can focus on what's left - not that they can even get the Type VII modelled correctly if the threads here are anything to go by.

[The General]

40 Euros is nothing for software of this calibre. Look at what people pay for the average PS3 game! Watch a few reviews for these PS3 games and you'll realise that the mojrity can be completed within a day! SH5 will keep you entertained for months!!! All for a lousy 40 euros. Other U-boat types will either be added by expansion Packs or by the Modding Community. Go play SH3 after playing SH5 and you'll find it looks very dated. You will simply never play SH3 again.

[Kapitanleutnant]

Price is not an issue. I am simply exercising my right as a consumer to not purchase a product that will not meet my expectations. What's the big deal?

edit: That's not to say I won't ever buy it. I probably will, just a year down the line, depending on what content is available at that point.

[The General]

I don't understand how you can afford to be picky? There are no other subsims in this league! If Ubisoft don't make a profit with this there are NO MORE SUBSIMS! I wish there were other competitors out there forcing Ubisoft to raise their game, but there isn't.

[Kapitanleutnant]

If Ubisoft don't make a profit with this there are NO MORE SUBSIMS!

Yeah... not so much. Silent Hunter is not "the genre", as I've said elsewhere. It is the dominant franchise in a very niche market. If the SH series folded tomorrow, another developer would eventually move in to exploit the gap. It might take 5 years, it might take 10, but it would happen without question.
I'm not prepared to reinforce bad habits on Ubisoft's part out of some sense of loyalty or obligation.
And you know, Silent Hunter 3 is still here, it's still incredible, and it's still being actively modded. Why, just take a look in the mods forum - right now there's work being done on a fully modelled interior engine room! In 2010! Incredible! I don't feel any pressing need to downgrade to a game featuring only Type VIIs and 2/3rds of the war. I'm sure Ubi won't miss my £45 either.

[Iron Budokan]

Originally Posted by Kapitanleutnant

Just because people can that doesn't mean they are obligated to pay full price for a stripped-down half game.

Exactly.