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[Raptor1]

Originally Posted by Lt.Fillipidis

@ Meo
There are quite a few photographs taken in the epicenter, some time after the impact. You can see the scorched earth and the standing tree trunks.
Them and the sudden loss of the entire 19th Soviet Regiment are a good proof that a weapon with devastating power was used there.
Unless you believe on the Nazi UFOs, the only reasonable scenario i can think of is that of the a-bomb.

You have a source for this?

[Méo]

Originally Posted by Lt.Fillipidis

@ Meo
There are quite a few photographs taken in the epicenter, some time after the impact. You can see the scorched earth and the standing tree trunks.
Them and the sudden loss of the entire 19th Soviet Regiment are a good proof that a weapon with devastating power was used there.
Unless you believe on the Nazi UFOs, the only reasonable scenario i can think of is that of the a-bomb.

You're telling a story without saying where did it supposedly happen, when did it supposedly happen and what are your sources???

BTW an atomic bomb can be seen several hundred kilometers away, if it really happen, there should have some witnesses?

Edit: @Raptor we almost have though the same at almost the same time...

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Méo

You're telling a story without saying where did it supposedly happen, when did it supposedly happen and what are your sources???

BTW an atomic bomb can be seen several hundred kilometers away, if it really happen, there should have some witnesses?

I did some digging and surprise surprise found a post about it on the AboveTopSecret's site (conspiracy site ). The 19th Infantry Regiment was supposedly nuked 150km south of Kursk few days prior to the Battle of Kursk.

If the soviets found a whole regiment "burnt to charcoal" why havent we heard about it?

Why there's no eyewitnesses (except for that "japanese observer")?

Link to the topic:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread502254/pg1

[Méo]

Originally Posted by Dowly

I did some digging and surprise surprise found a post about it on the AboveTopSecret's site (conspiracy site ). The 19th Infantry Regiment was supposedly nuked 150km south of Kursk few days prior to the Battle of Kursk.

If the soviets found a whole regiment "burnt to charcoal" why havent we heard about it?

Why there's no eyewitnesses (except for that "japanese observer")?

Link to the topic:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread502254/pg1

Remember me someone at work (who is a fan of those sites...) already told me that all electronic stuff we have today (computers, cell phone, etc) was based on Alien technology

Right the Americans have found an UFO in 1948...

He was telling me: ''How do you explain that first TV and electronic stuff had been implemented around that those years...''

[Méo]

@ Lt.Fillipidis

I didn't mean to insult you.

You are free to think whatever you want.

But for me all those things are... just... too... I don't know I just don't find the word to describe it.

[Torplexed]

Originally Posted by Dowly

I did some digging and surprise surprise found a post about it on the AboveTopSecret's site (conspiracy site ). The 19th Infantry Regiment was supposedly nuked 150km south of Kursk few days prior to the Battle of Kursk.

If the soviets found a whole regiment "burnt to charcoal" why havent we heard about it?

Why there's no eyewitnesses (except for that "japanese observer")?

Link to the topic:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread502254/pg1

Abovetopsecret along with godlikeproductions are famous for being sites where the fringe types go to feed off each other's conspiratorial fantasies and delusions. They're the ones preparing for the world to end in 2012, and when that date passes will probably already have another doomsday date in place to moan about.

Given Hitler's penchant for grand political gestures why would the Germans waste a nuclear weapon on an obscure Soviet infantry regiment in the field when in 1943 they could still have easily hit Moscow, Leningrad or London? Why did they never use it again?

[Catfish]

Hi,
imho building the atom bomb would have been possible, but it was not done - maybe because of the delays of the german scientists, or because of lacking infrastructure, or support due to the bombing of facilities being vital for such an effort. But they were on their way :

About the "capture" of the already surrendering U-234:

" ... The fact that she had a half ton of uranium oxide on board was covered up and remained classified for the duration of the Cold War;[8] a classified US intelligence summary of 19 May merely listed U-234's cargo as including "a/c [aircraft], drawings, arms, medical supplies, instruments, lead, mercury, caffeine, steels, optical glass and brass."[9]

The uranium subsequently disappeared, most likely finding its way to the Manhattan Project's Oak Ridge diffusion plant;

it has been calculated that it would have yielded approximately 7.7 pounds (3.5 kg) of U-235 after processing, around 20% of what would have been required to arm a contemporary fission weapon.[10]


So it is well possible that this very uranium from Germany found it's way to the US Manhattan project, and "ironically" helped to bomb Japan - the country were this U-boat's payload including scientists were initially intended to go, for the japanese war effort.

Greetings
Catfish

[Lt.Fillipidis]

Originally Posted by Méo

You're telling a story without saying where did it supposedly happen, when did it supposedly happen and what are your sources???

BTW an atomic bomb can be seen several hundred kilometers away, if it really happen, there should have some witnesses?

Edit: @Raptor we almost have though the same at almost the same time...

150km South East of Kursk, 2 days before the Battle of Kursk.
Here are a few links. They dont mentrion the bombing of Kursk itself though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitlers_Bombe
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4348497.stm

And here's a YouTube Video that has some pictures of the epicenter.


The only part im sure that its missunderstood its the V2/A-something, which was infact a simple V2 with a range extention (the A-something lower part of the rocket which was similar to what Space Busses use today.)

Nazi Germany evolved as none else did back then. When they lost the war, many patterns and schematics that were captured were still advanced compared to what the allies had. A reason to seize them.
And then, there's the cold war. A reason to hide them.
In a race for power between the Soviet Union and USA, its vital to keep all you can classified. Even things that they discovered years ago.
If the base is provided and you have the knowledge to use it, you're bound to discover whatever you want.

I dont know what you think, but i dont think that the scientists all over the world have discovered so few in so many years with so much knowledge provided. I think they're just classified.

[Raptor1]

Originally Posted by Lt.Fillipidis

150km South East of Kursk, 2 days before the Battle of Kursk.
Here are a few links. They dont mentrion the bombing of Kursk itself though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitlers_Bombe
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4348497.stm

And here's a YouTube Video that has some pictures of the epicenter.


The only part im sure that its missunderstood its the V2/A-something, which was infact a simple V2 with a range extention (the A-something lower part of the rocket which was similar to what Space Busses use today.)

Nazi Germany evolved as none else did back then. When they lost the war, many patterns and schematics that were captured were still advanced compared to what the allies had. A reason to seize them.
And then, there's the cold war. A reason to hide them.
In a race for power between the Soviet Union and USA, its vital to keep all you can classified. Even things that they discovered years ago.
If the base is provided and you have the knowledge to use it, you're bound to discover whatever you want.

I dont know what you think, but i dont think that the scientists all over the world have discovered so few in so many years with so much knowledge provided. I think they're just classified.

That book supposedly implies that the bomb was tested in 1944-1945, but the Battle of Kursk was a year earlier, thus contradicting your claims.

The photo of this supposed Kursk explosion is not very convincing, it in fact looks very much like any other similar battlefield after a flash barrage. Many photos of the Western Front in World War I give a similar impression.

I'd still like to see a source for the supposed nuking at Kursk.

[Lt.Fillipidis]

http://www.greyfalcon.us/The%20Battle%20Of%20Kursk.htm

Plus, the book Reich of the Black Sun is a good book around the subject.

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Lt.Fillipidis

150km South East of Kursk, 2 days before the Battle of Kursk.
Here are a few links. They dont mentrion the bombing of Kursk itself though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitlers_Bombe
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4348497.stm

And here's a YouTube Video that has some pictures of the epicenter.


The only part im sure that its missunderstood its the V2/A-something, which was infact a simple V2 with a range extention (the A-something lower part of the rocket which was similar to what Space Busses use today.)

Nazi Germany evolved as none else did back then. When they lost the war, many patterns and schematics that were captured were still advanced compared to what the allies had. A reason to seize them.
And then, there's the cold war. A reason to hide them.
In a race for power between the Soviet Union and USA, its vital to keep all you can classified. Even things that they discovered years ago.
If the base is provided and you have the knowledge to use it, you're bound to discover whatever you want.

I dont know what you think, but i dont think that the scientists all over the world have discovered so few in so many years with so much knowledge provided. I think they're just classified.

Right, well any of that doesnt answer my questions I made. Why didnt the soviets talk about it during and/or after the war? Surely a whole regiment burned with the enviroment with it was something to talk about.

Why there have been no other eyewitnesses to the Kursk bombing? German army was nearby, as was the soviet army, nobody supposedly saw nothing? Besides, both sides were surely to know about eachother so the air activity would have been tense, someone would've had to see something.

[Task Force]

Hmm. and if the germans had a nuke. (refering to vid.) Why didnt they use it? could have really worked wounders on the eastern front, and knocked the russians around badly...

[Torplexed]

Wow. An entire infantry regiment wiped out to the last man with nukes and none of the millions of other German and Russian soldiers and airmen crowded in the Kursk salient bothers to look up and notice the resulting blinding fireball or write down an account in a unit or field dairy or take a picture of the mushroom cloud. Rather odd considering all the eyewitness accounts from miles around of the secret US "Trinity" a-bomb test in a then sparsely populated section of New Mexico. I guess the Germans were more obsessed with getting the Panther tank over it's teething problems at Kursk than with their rather successful nuclear weapon debut.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Torplexed

Wow. An entire infantry regiment wiped out to the last man with nukes and none of the millions of other German and Russian soldiers and airmen crowded in the Kursk salient bothers to look up and notice the resulting blinding fireball or write down an account in a unit or field dairy or take a picture of the mushroom cloud. Rather odd considering all the eyewitness accounts from miles around of the secret US "Trinity" a-bomb test in a then sparsely populated section of New Mexico. I guess the Germans were more obsessed with getting the Panther tank over it's teething problems at Kursk than with their rather successful nuclear weapon debut.

[Oberon]