Another case of missing WMD?

AVGWarhawk · 09-25-09, 03:18 PM

Is Obama's information correct or is yet another failure of "intelligence" on the horizon? Another WMD story?

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President Obama, along with the leaders of Britain and France, will "regret" accusing Iran of hiding a nuclear facility, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Friday.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...et-nuke-plant/

Jimbuna · 09-25-09, 03:46 PM

.....and numb nuts may 'regret' making that statement earlier than he thinks

AVGWarhawk · 09-25-09, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

.....and numb nuts may 'regret' making that statement earlier than he thinks

Could be. That is why I ask. Recall the "intelligence" with Iraq and WMD that well...never materialized.

Blacklight · 09-25-09, 07:43 PM

Yeesh... next thing he'll say is that Iran wasn't concealing it at all and that it was totally in plain sight in New York City when it detonated.

FIREWALL · 09-25-09, 08:41 PM

I'm sick and tired of all this BS. Iran has every right in a free society to develope nuclear weapons.

All the rest of the world do's is walk around sqawking like a chicken and acting like a ostrich.

If and when Iran uses or sells one that is used on another country, swift and immediate retaliation by other nations is used on Iran.

Then the country formally known as Iran will be a memory and a reminder to the rest of the world that their irresponsible actions won't be tollerated.

I don't give 10yrs before a nuke is used on a country somewhere because the rest of the World has shown so much weakness.

The clock is ticking.

FIREWALL · 09-26-09, 12:52 AM

I definately know how to bring a thread to a lockjawed stanstill.

Arclight · 09-26-09, 02:06 AM

Everyone is waiting for that nuke to fall.

MothBalls · 09-26-09, 02:10 AM

I do think that it's only a matter of time. I think it was in the movie Peacemaker when the female agent said "I'm not worried about the dictator who wants to add 10 missiles to his arsenal, I'm worried about the bastard who wants just one". Iran reminds me of that statement for some reason.

The Doomsday Clock has already considered Iran into it's equation two years ago. The only thing that worries me is the SOB has already made statements about wiping other countries off of the face of the earth and denied the Holocaust happened. He's a nutjob, in power, just like Saddam was.

I don't know if it was an intelligence failure in Iraq. Just because they didn't find them, doesn't mean they didn't exist. It was debated for a year in public, plenty of time to move/relocate/hide them. They may still be there. They may be somewhere else. They may have never existed. Hopefully, we won't find out the hard way.

For those not familiar with the Doomsday clock, the time-line is a good read.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_clock

It's now 5 minutes to midnight. It hasn't been that close since 1984.

Foxtrot · 09-26-09, 03:51 AM

Summary of this thread:

There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know.

XabbaRus · 09-26-09, 06:44 AM

Saddam was quite sane compared to ahmadinnerjacket.

Dowly · 09-26-09, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by FIREWALL

I'm sick and tired of all this BS. Iran has every right in a free society to develope nuclear weapons.

Exactly. This "We can have them, but you cant" situation is just plain silly if you ask me.

August · 09-26-09, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

Exactly. This "We can have them, but you cant" situation is just plain silly if you ask me.

Well it's looking like you guys are gonna get your wish then.

FIREWALL · 09-26-09, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by August

Well it's looking like you guys are gonna get your wish then.

Just being realistic. If past nutcase leaders like Hitler, Stalin and a few others would have had Nukes.

Do you honestly beleive they would have stopped with two ?

ETR3(SS) · 09-26-09, 11:51 AM

Stalin had the bomb. And you know why don't we (as in the US, UK, Russia) stop dismantling our bombs and just hand them out like candy!

There's a reason some people don't like the idea of Iran, Iraq or insert 3rd world county here, having nuclear capability.

Jimbuna · 09-26-09, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by XabbaRus

Saddam was quite sane compared to ahmadinnerjacket.

If both the above had the capability I am convinced the latter (when taking into account the anti west stance of the governing elite) would be far more likely to use them.

There's is something about those who feel it is glorious and better to become a martyr in death that absolutely terrifies me.

09-25-09, 03:46 PM	#2
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Blacklight Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Connecticut Posts: 2,507 Downloads: 145 Uploads: 0	Yeesh... next thing he'll say is that Iran wasn't concealing it at all and that it was totally in plain sight in New York City when it detonated. __________________ Be my friend or be a mushroom cloud. "I am coming at you. You will explode in a couple of minutes !"

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FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	I'm sick and tired of all this BS. Iran has every right in a free society to develope nuclear weapons. All the rest of the world do's is walk around sqawking like a chicken and acting like a ostrich. If and when Iran uses or sells one that is used on another country, swift and immediate retaliation by other nations is used on Iran. Then the country formally known as Iran will be a memory and a reminder to the rest of the world that their irresponsible actions won't be tollerated. I don't give 10yrs before a nuke is used on a country somewhere because the rest of the World has shown so much weakness. The clock is ticking. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

09-26-09, 12:52 AM	#6
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	I definately know how to bring a thread to a lockjawed stanstill. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

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Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Everyone is waiting for that nuke to fall. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

09-26-09, 02:10 AM	#8
MothBalls Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,012 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	I do think that it's only a matter of time. I think it was in the movie Peacemaker when the female agent said "I'm not worried about the dictator who wants to add 10 missiles to his arsenal, I'm worried about the bastard who wants just one". Iran reminds me of that statement for some reason. The Doomsday Clock has already considered Iran into it's equation two years ago. The only thing that worries me is the SOB has already made statements about wiping other countries off of the face of the earth and denied the Holocaust happened. He's a nutjob, in power, just like Saddam was. I don't know if it was an intelligence failure in Iraq. Just because they didn't find them, doesn't mean they didn't exist. It was debated for a year in public, plenty of time to move/relocate/hide them. They may still be there. They may be somewhere else. They may have never existed. Hopefully, we won't find out the hard way. For those not familiar with the Doomsday clock, the time-line is a good read. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_clock It's now 5 minutes to midnight. It hasn't been that close since 1984.

09-26-09, 03:51 AM	#9
Foxtrot Ensign Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 231 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Summary of this thread: There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know. __________________ And when the plane got down to, 'The plane is 10 miles out,' the young man also said to the vice president, 'Do the orders still stand?' And the vice president turned and whipped his neck around and said, 'Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?' Well, at the time I didn't know what all that meant.

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XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Saddam was quite sane compared to ahmadinnerjacket. __________________

09-26-09, 11:51 AM	#14
ETR3(SS) Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between test depth and periscope depth Posts: 3,021 Downloads: 175 Uploads: 16	Stalin had the bomb. And you know why don't we (as in the US, UK, Russia) stop dismantling our bombs and just hand them out like candy! There's a reason some people don't like the idea of Iran, Iraq or insert 3rd world county here, having nuclear capability. __________________ USS Kentucky SSBN 737 (G) Comms Div 2003-2006 Qualified 19 November 03 Yes I was really on a submarine.