New to SH4

floundericiousWA · 09-16-09, 10:55 AM

Hey all, I'm a journeyman SH3 cap'n and I just found SH4-UB-Gold for $6 at a used bookstore

I'm patrolling in a Tambor in December 1941 near the Japanese home islands on my first campaign.

What fuel level is my "bingo fuel"? In SH3, I ask the navigator range to empty and take care of it that way...am I in deep poo if I hit 25% diesel while near something like Naha?

I've got a task force in my sights (jeebus, it's impressive, two fusos, a kongo, three Mayas, two CLs, and about 10 DDs) but I don't want to run out of fuel (instant fail???) in the middle of the pacific.

What should I keep in mind about fuel consumption (is there a best speed? is there a way to identify range to empty?) when playing SH4? If you run out of fuel are you pretty much dead...exit to main menu, you die, thanks for all the fish?

Thanks

SteamWake · 09-16-09, 10:59 AM

What I do although not very realistic is to make note of how much fuel it took to arrive on station. Typically around 1/4 tank or a little less. In other words 3/4 left.

I make sure to set off for home before I reach that 1/4 tank left.

It depends alot on what theater, and boat, and if there are ports nearby.

Some mods add the range at current speed button

DigitalAura · 09-16-09, 11:20 AM

Welcome... you're obviously just runnin' stock... but if you go download Trigger Maru Overhaul (mod) then you'll have a nice lil icon you can click to tell you the range you can cover at the current speed.

Distortion · 09-16-09, 11:22 AM

I use TMO, where you can ask the navigator what max range with the current speed is. Also, I use 10 knots almost everytime.

But again, I use TMO 1.7, not sure how this is with stock.

Sailor Steve · 09-16-09, 11:25 AM

Excellent choice, excellent price! TMO and RFB are both great mods, and give OpsMonsun a try for a quick return to the U-boats. And don't forget RSRDC for a realistic campaign background.

@ SteamWake: Why would that be unrealistic? I would think that's the best way to do it, though I've never skippered a real submarine.

floundericiousWA · 09-16-09, 11:58 AM

Thanks all, I'm getting the sense that Trigger Maru is the consummate mod for SH4 (for reference, I've got GWX's latest on SH3 and it's freaking balls-out AWESOME).

Can anyone answer that last question about running out of fuel...is that pretty much a "you die, game over" condition?

In SH3, you can still "return to port" from 340000km away LOL

That saved my career's bacon on my first convoy encounter in GWX...turns out it wasn't just tin-cans...they had a light cruiser in the middle of the convoy who promptly turned my uboat into swiss cheese as soon as I hit the first target.

I barely survived that and the follow up "how's your father" from the DDs but with all fuel lost and batteries near dead......

ETR3(SS) · 09-16-09, 12:45 PM

To answer your question about running out of fuel, it's game over pretty much. So keep an eye on that fuel gauge!

SteamWake · 09-16-09, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

@ SteamWake: Why would that be unrealistic? I would think that's the best way to do it, though I've never skippered a real submarine.

I've never skippered nor served aboard a submarine but being an old salt I can tell you most assuredly that time and energy spent getting to point a are not equal to time and energy spent returning

Winds, currrents, weather, temprature, hell even relative humidity all have effect.

But the game does not take these variables into account so a reasonable guess is good enough

ETR3(SS) · 09-16-09, 01:46 PM

Case in point the Gulf Stream.

floundericiousWA · 09-16-09, 02:24 PM

..or the California current, for those of us on this half of the civilized world

Thanks all, you guys rock!

09-16-09, 10:55 AM	#1
floundericiousWA Medic Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 164 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	New to SH4 Hey all, I'm a journeyman SH3 cap'n and I just found SH4-UB-Gold for $6 at a used bookstore I'm patrolling in a Tambor in December 1941 near the Japanese home islands on my first campaign. What fuel level is my "bingo fuel"? In SH3, I ask the navigator range to empty and take care of it that way...am I in deep poo if I hit 25% diesel while near something like Naha? I've got a task force in my sights (jeebus, it's impressive, two fusos, a kongo, three Mayas, two CLs, and about 10 DDs) but I don't want to run out of fuel (instant fail???) in the middle of the pacific. What should I keep in mind about fuel consumption (is there a best speed? is there a way to identify range to empty?) when playing SH4? If you run out of fuel are you pretty much dead...exit to main menu, you die, thanks for all the fish? Thanks

09-16-09, 10:59 AM	#2
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	What I do although not very realistic is to make note of how much fuel it took to arrive on station. Typically around 1/4 tank or a little less. In other words 3/4 left. I make sure to set off for home before I reach that 1/4 tank left. It depends alot on what theater, and boat, and if there are ports nearby. Some mods add the range at current speed button __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

09-16-09, 11:20 AM	#3
DigitalAura Straight and True Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: CANADA Posts: 276 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Welcome... you're obviously just runnin' stock... but if you go download Trigger Maru Overhaul (mod) then you'll have a nice lil icon you can click to tell you the range you can cover at the current speed. __________________ ... ALL YOUR BEACH ARE BELONG TO US! ...

09-16-09, 11:22 AM	#4
Distortion Rosengarten. Center Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 89 Downloads: 225 Uploads: 0	I use TMO, where you can ask the navigator what max range with the current speed is. Also, I use 10 knots almost everytime. But again, I use TMO 1.7, not sure how this is with stock. __________________ "Ashes to ashes, dust unto dust, it may not run, but shine it must, it may not work, but it will not rust."

09-16-09, 11:25 AM	#5
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Excellent choice, excellent price! TMO and RFB are both great mods, and give OpsMonsun a try for a quick return to the U-boats. And don't forget RSRDC for a realistic campaign background. @ SteamWake: Why would that be unrealistic? I would think that's the best way to do it, though I've never skippered a real submarine. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

09-16-09, 11:58 AM	#6
floundericiousWA Medic Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 164 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Thanks all, I'm getting the sense that Trigger Maru is the consummate mod for SH4 (for reference, I've got GWX's latest on SH3 and it's freaking balls-out AWESOME). Can anyone answer that last question about running out of fuel...is that pretty much a "you die, game over" condition? In SH3, you can still "return to port" from 340000km away LOL That saved my career's bacon on my first convoy encounter in GWX...turns out it wasn't just tin-cans...they had a light cruiser in the middle of the convoy who promptly turned my uboat into swiss cheese as soon as I hit the first target. I barely survived that and the follow up "how's your father" from the DDs but with all fuel lost and batteries near dead......

09-16-09, 12:45 PM	#7
ETR3(SS) Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between test depth and periscope depth Posts: 3,021 Downloads: 175 Uploads: 16	To answer your question about running out of fuel, it's game over pretty much. So keep an eye on that fuel gauge! __________________ USS Kentucky SSBN 737 (G) Comms Div 2003-2006 Qualified 19 November 03 Yes I was really on a submarine.

09-16-09, 01:46 PM	#9
ETR3(SS) Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between test depth and periscope depth Posts: 3,021 Downloads: 175 Uploads: 16	Case in point the Gulf Stream. __________________ USS Kentucky SSBN 737 (G) Comms Div 2003-2006 Qualified 19 November 03 Yes I was really on a submarine.

09-16-09, 02:24 PM	#10
floundericiousWA Medic Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 164 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	..or the California current, for those of us on this half of the civilized world Thanks all, you guys rock!