NSS Shark

[Nameless Bob]

Originally Posted by kronus888

First thing first i absolutely love ur ships they r awesome!! but i have 2 issues, first being that the shark for me has no conning tower on any of the models. 2nd one being that whenever i get close to japan in any of ur subs including the blackwolf and titan, the game crashes. im using fotrs and i have the campaign fix. Any help would be appreciated

Getting the same thing here too except when I try to use the campagin file for FOTRS I get a CTD when selecting pacific campagin.I tried subbing the campaign file from the stock 1.5 folder and using the FOTRS flotilla file with it and I can get it to work that way so it dosen't like the FOTRS careerstart file in the UPCCampaignData folder for some reason.When I do get it to work I get the same conning tower problem.Everything else works like it should on the other subs.Didn't try sailing them near japan to see if I get a CTD.I'll take your word on it.I'm running FOTRS mod then the other subs in the right install order(BW,Titan,S,S2).No other mods.Tried uninstalling everything with JSGME and reinstalling and same result as before.Hope this info helps.

Other than these problems everything seems fine and works properly.And again great work on the shark and other subs.The japanese navy will need more underpants.

[Silverwolf]

Originally Posted by kronus888

First thing first i absolutely love ur ships they r awesome!! but i have 2 issues, first being that the shark for me has no conning tower on any of the models. 2nd one being that whenever i get close to japan in any of ur subs including the blackwolf and titan, the game crashes. im using fotrs and i have the campaign fix. Any help would be appreciated

For the conning tower, you have to make sure that the UnitParts#Shark.upc is in numerical order at the end of the list in the data/UPCData/UPCUnitsData folder. That part is explained in the read me in case you didn't read it . The crashing, I don't know why it does that. It could be another mod you are running the game with as well as my subs. It's hard for me to replicate crashes when my game doesn't crash. And I run other mods in with the major ones, like RUIM, OM for TMO, RSRDC, and so on. I only get a CTD when I actually go into a port after being in time compression for a while.

Originally Posted by Nameless Bob

Getting the same thing here too except when I try to use the campagin file for FOTRS I get a CTD when selecting pacific campagin.I tried subbing the campagin file from the stock 1.5 folder and using the FOTRS flotilla file with it and I can get it to work that way so it dosen't like the FOTRS campagin file in the UPCCampaignData folder for some reason.When I do get it to work I get the same conning tower problem.Everything else works like it should on the other subs.Didn't try sailing them near japan to see if I get a CTD.I'll take your word on it.I'm running FOTRS mod then the other subs in the right install order(BW,Titan,S,S2).No other mods.Tried uninstalling everything with JSGME and reinstalling and same result as before.Hope this info helps.

Other than these problems everything seems fine and works properly.And again great work on the shark and other subs.The japanese navy will need more underpants.

Check the first post and you'll see a fix for the FOTRS campaign crash. So install the regular FOTRS campaign files first then install the update and the game should let you run the campaign.

[Nameless Bob]

Fixed the conning tower problem.I am using the campaign crash fix but it still dosen't like the careerstart file for some reason.If I switch for the stock one everything works.I don't get it.I even tried uninstalling/reinstalling things and redownloading files to make sure things aren't corrupted.Any ideas?

ill fix the conning tower later thats easy to fix now i know whats wrong(never been good at following instructions tho so we'll see)... the only mod im runnin at the moment is fotrs so im thinking its problebly a file or two jsgme decided not to remove thats causing the crash. Bummer.... another file diving session... thx a ton tho

[Nameless Bob]

Originally Posted by kronus888

ill fix the conning tower later thats easy to fix now i know whats wrong(never been good at following instructions tho so we'll see)... the only mod im runnin at the moment is fotrs so im thinking its problebly a file or two jsgme decided not to remove thats causing the crash. Bummer.... another file diving session... thx a ton tho

Yeah, I think I'm in the same boat.The conning tower fix is super easy, you won't have a problem.I think I've got a corrupted uninstall from JSGME leaving files around.Seems we both have code fun.

[L0neStarRaider]

Umm I don't know what I'm doing wrong, but I cant even select the boat in career mode because it isn't even on the menu. I have JSGME, but I have no idea how to work that. I've looked through the threads, and I found no help.

[Nameless Bob]

Originally Posted by L0neStarRaider

Umm I don't know what I'm doing wrong, but I cant even select the boat in career mode because it isn't even on the menu. I have JSGME, but I have no idea how to work that. I've looked through the threads, and I found no help.

Don't feel bad I've been having problems myself but I think I've got mine half fixed for now.Just curious, what mods are you installing and are you doing it manually(moving and overwriting files)?You might be missing a mod you needed to make this work.I have had been having problems with JSGME not installing files correctly even though it's installed in a different directory than C:/ProgramFiles so it hasn't been too reliable for me with big mods.But if you want to know how to set it up I can walk you through that easy.Just in case you didn't know you need the blackwolf(necessary) and titan super fortress (you don't need it but if selected will cause CTD) files as a base to make it all work.Good luck.Mass destruction awaits.

[L0neStarRaider]

I tried using JSGME and when that didn't work, I did it the old fashion way....drag and drop. Maybe I'm doing something wrong, because when I got to start a campaign, only the stock boats are available. The only mod i'm running is RSRD.

[Nameless Bob]

Originally Posted by L0neStarRaider

I tried using JSGME and when that didn't work, I did it the old fashion way....drag and drop. Maybe I'm doing something wrong, because when I got to start a campaign, only the stock boats are available. The only mod i'm running is RSRD.

It sounds like your career files aren't working for some reason.The order I used was FOTRS mod then blackwolf,titan,shark,shark 1,shark 2,career files.You might make sure that you are using the right career files for RSRD and check
Data\UPCData\UPCCampaignData flotilla/careerstart files with notepad and see if the ships are listed there.If they are there you should be working.If that doesn't work you might have a corrupted install and you would have to uninstall/reinstall everything.Hopefully you won't have to go that far.Hope this helps.

[Silverwolf]

Originally Posted by Nameless Bob

Fixed the conning tower problem.I am using the campaign crash fix but it still dosen't like the careerstart file for some reason.If I switch for the stock one everything works.I don't get it.I even tried uninstalling/reinstalling things and redownloading files to make sure things aren't corrupted.Any ideas?

Hmm, you could try just using the FOTRS fix for the campaign and not installing the original files. I believe I put both files into the fix needed for campaign.

Originally Posted by L0neStarRaider

I tried using JSGME and when that didn't work, I did it the old fashion way....drag and drop. Maybe I'm doing something wrong, because when I got to start a campaign, only the stock boats are available. The only mod i'm running is RSRD.

The problem may be that you're only running RSRDC, I don't think I ever downloaded the mod for the stock version of the game. I'll do that and see what I can find.

[Doomgiver]

why doesn't the special orders button work


and i am having trouble with the conning tower so what should i be looking for i looked in my upc folder and saw nothing that i think would cause trouble


unitspart18Sharkx2.upc

[Silverwolf]

Well first off you need the regular Shark if you want to use the Shark X2. There are some files that all three versions use and they're with the regular shark file.

Second you need to make sure that the unitspart18Sharkx2.upc file is in order with the other unitspart upc files. So if the other ships stopped at #10 you'd need to have the original shark be #11 and then the Shark X2 be #12. That should fix the conning tower problem.

As for the special orders button, I didn't touch that so I don't know why it doesn't work.

[treblesum81]

This may be a stupid question considering the oxymoron it presents, but is this boat at all compatible with RFB / TMO / RSRDC? I'm using RFB / RSRDC right now, but I would really like to get into something like this for a little fun and games.

Thanks,
Greg

[JJM]

I'm sorry if this post sounds incredibly stupid but I have tried interpreting the readme file about the conning tower and I still can't get it to work.

I tried renaming the Shark files in the original game folder, SH4/data.... etc.

that didn't do anything, the numbers in the files for the shark variations are not sequential to the number of the Titan, (11, 16). Changing that (11, 12) didn't matter in any way either. Can anyone clarify how I can get it to work?

couple of images to maybe add some information to this post:
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http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/9831/61848441.jpg

[Silverwolf]

Originally Posted by treblesum81

This may be a stupid question considering the oxymoron it presents, but is this boat at all compatible with RFB / TMO / RSRDC? I'm using RFB / RSRDC right now, but I would really like to get into something like this for a little fun and games.

Yup the sub is compatible with those mods. I built it with TMO installed so I know for sure that it works with that. It has to be 1.7 though. When you download the sub there should be folders for each super mod there. Well the ones that change certain files that is.

Thanks,
Greg

Originally Posted by JJM

I'm sorry if this post sounds incredibly stupid but I have tried interpreting the readme file about the conning tower and I still can't get it to work.

I tried renaming the Shark files in the original game folder, SH4/data.... etc.

that didn't do anything, the numbers in the files for the shark variations are not sequential to the number of the Titan, (11, 16). Changing that (11, 12) didn't matter in any way either. Can anyone clarify how I can get it to work?

couple of images to maybe add some information to this post:
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/3613/11426306.jpg
http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/9831/61848441.jpg

It's kind of right in front of you there. You see the files are not in numerical order by the Unitparts#. You have 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,11,16,17,18. Put them in numerical order 1-12 and everything should work fine. Just remember that when you uninstall the subs, because you renamed the unitparts file, they won't uninstall with JSGME and you'll have to delete them manually.