Crew on a VIIB

Mau · 09-13-09, 10:19 AM

Hi all,

I would like to know, out of the 5 officiers that we can see of the crew managament window, that does not include us, the commanding officer.
If so, does that mean that a VII B for exemple has a total of 6 officers then.

Just wondering.

Thank you

Schroeder · 09-13-09, 10:39 AM

I believe in RL it were just four:
Captain
I WO
II WO
LI

Shearwater · 09-13-09, 11:10 AM

Isn't there a II LI as well?

Six officers (including CO) seems a bit high though.

Schroeder · 09-13-09, 11:49 AM

LI means Leitender Ingenieur. That's leading technician. I guess there is only one leader.

Shearwater · 09-13-09, 02:10 PM

True enough, but I can recall that there was a II LI in 'Das Boot', the engineer trainee

I'm just unsure whether it's normal to have a II LI on every boat.

Rapt0r56 · 09-13-09, 03:45 PM

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but I can recall that there was a II LI in 'Das Boot'

yup, in the book there was a II LI, but i think this rang wasn't a Officer, so the Commander / LI / IWO / IIWO ... not the Navigator or Radio / Sonar man, we see this for example in "Das Boot" (Movie).

At the scene in Vigo where the old man orders the Officer's to Bridge, there only goes: LI, IWO, IIWO, and Lieutnant Werner

[Edit] And the IILI was onboard for learning, because the LI should leave U-96 after this last Patrol and the IILI comes to his side.

Red Heat · 09-15-09, 04:11 PM

Very good point, Rapt0r...

Rhodes · 09-15-09, 06:13 PM

Yes, the third watch officer was normally the navigator, an NCO!

Off-topic, the II LI was Ullman?

Rapt0r56 · 09-15-09, 10:01 PM

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Off-topic, the II LI was Ullman?

In the Book i can't remember, it can be.

But in the Movie Ullman was the shy Boy with the Love Story, i do not believe that he is in Constitution to act as an LI.

Rhodes · 09-16-09, 05:43 AM

That was because the "Mighty God" knowed as "The Script" made the caracther like that!

Rapt0r56 · 09-16-09, 09:56 AM

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knowed as "The Script"

09-21-09, 11:05 PM

1WO, 2WO, Engineering Officer, Chief Quartermaster as Navigator (Enlisted).
Being as SH3 doesn't allow the Engieering Officer to also fulfill his duties as DC officer, that's what I use the "extra" officer for. One sits in the Chief Engineer slot. The other stays in DCC with a repair qual. But, for all practical purposes - they are the same man.
How to "mod" without modding. It ain't GWX, but for some things, improvization (sp?) works.
Other times Self Imposed Restrictions can also get the job done.

JScones · 09-22-09, 04:12 AM

We're getting a bad storm here so I will be quick, but if you search the archives you'll find I've posted details of actual u-boat crew composition ranks/roles etc a few times. It will be quite helpful. Sorry, but thunder/lightning stops me from looking right now.

Danelov · 09-27-09, 02:31 PM

After U-47 at the time of Scapa Flow a Type VIIB crew was of 40 , including commander(Prien), LI(Wessels),I WO(Endrass), and II WO(Von Varendorff).In few words: commander(Prien) and three officers(Wessels,Endrass and Vor Varendorff).
Spahr was the U-Steurmann but was a Obersteurmann(pilot).

The crew included:

9 in Seeman personal(1 Bootsman,2 Bootsmaat,1 Matrose Gefr.,5 Matr.Ob.Gefr.

1 Cook(Matr. Ob.Gefr.)

3 Radio(funk)(Ober -Funkmaat,Ob.Funk-Gefr and Funk-Gefr.)

4 Torpedo personal(1 Ober-Mechanikersmaat, 3 Ob.Mech.Gefr.)

3 Personal Central(1 Stabsmaschinist,1 Masch .Hauptgefr.,1 Masch.Gefr.)

8 Diesel engines(1 Stabs.Ob.Masch.2 Masch.Maat,1 Masch.Gefr.4 Masch.Ob.Gefr.)

7 Electric Engines( 1 Ob.Maschinist,2 Masch.Maat,4 Masch.Ob.Gefr.)

Happy saliling

09-13-09, 10:19 AM	#1
Mau Sonar Guy Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 382 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Crew on a VIIB Hi all, I would like to know, out of the 5 officiers that we can see of the crew managament window, that does not include us, the commanding officer. If so, does that mean that a VII B for exemple has a total of 6 officers then. Just wondering. Thank you

09-13-09, 10:39 AM	#2
Schroeder Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Banana Republic of Germany Posts: 6,170 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	I believe in RL it were just four: Captain I WO II WO LI __________________ Putting Germ back into Germany.

09-13-09, 11:49 AM	#4
Schroeder Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Banana Republic of Germany Posts: 6,170 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	LI means Leitender Ingenieur. That's leading technician. I guess there is only one leader. __________________ Putting Germ back into Germany.

09-15-09, 04:11 PM	#7
Red Heat Ace of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Portugal Posts: 1,093 Downloads: 267 Uploads: 0	Very good point, Rapt0r... __________________ "There is three kinds of man: the living, the death, and those who are at Sea." Plato

09-15-09, 06:13 PM	#8
Rhodes Silent Hunter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Figueira da Foz, Portugal Posts: 4,515 Downloads: 110 Uploads: 0	Yes, the third watch officer was normally the navigator, an NCO! Off-topic, the II LI was Ullman? __________________ http://www.flickr.com/photos/16416646@N05/

09-13-09, 11:10 AM	#3
Shearwater Captain Join Date: May 2009 Location: SUBSIM Radio Room (kinda obvious, isn't it) Posts: 542 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 0	Isn't there a II LI as well? Six officers (including CO) seems a bit high though.

09-13-09, 02:10 PM	#5
Shearwater Captain Join Date: May 2009 Location: SUBSIM Radio Room (kinda obvious, isn't it) Posts: 542 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 0	True enough, but I can recall that there was a II LI in 'Das Boot', the engineer trainee I'm just unsure whether it's normal to have a II LI on every boat.

09-16-09, 05:43 AM	#10
Rhodes Silent Hunter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Figueira da Foz, Portugal Posts: 4,515 Downloads: 110 Uploads: 0	That was because the "Mighty God" knowed as "The Script" made the caracther like that! __________________ http://www.flickr.com/photos/16416646@N05/

09-21-09, 11:05 PM	#12
Snestorm Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	1WO, 2WO, Engineering Officer, Chief Quartermaster as Navigator (Enlisted). Being as SH3 doesn't allow the Engieering Officer to also fulfill his duties as DC officer, that's what I use the "extra" officer for. One sits in the Chief Engineer slot. The other stays in DCC with a repair qual. But, for all practical purposes - they are the same man. How to "mod" without modding. It ain't GWX, but for some things, improvization (sp?) works. Other times Self Imposed Restrictions can also get the job done.

09-22-09, 04:12 AM	#13
JScones Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,501 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	We're getting a bad storm here so I will be quick, but if you search the archives you'll find I've posted details of actual u-boat crew composition ranks/roles etc a few times. It will be quite helpful. Sorry, but thunder/lightning stops me from looking right now.

09-27-09, 02:31 PM	#14
Danelov Gunner Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 94 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 0	After U-47 at the time of Scapa Flow a Type VIIB crew was of 40 , including commander(Prien), LI(Wessels),I WO(Endrass), and II WO(Von Varendorff).In few words: commander(Prien) and three officers(Wessels,Endrass and Vor Varendorff). Spahr was the U-Steurmann but was a Obersteurmann(pilot). The crew included: 9 in Seeman personal(1 Bootsman,2 Bootsmaat,1 Matrose Gefr.,5 Matr.Ob.Gefr. 1 Cook(Matr. Ob.Gefr.) 3 Radio(funk)(Ober -Funkmaat,Ob.Funk-Gefr and Funk-Gefr.) 4 Torpedo personal(1 Ober-Mechanikersmaat, 3 Ob.Mech.Gefr.) 3 Personal Central(1 Stabsmaschinist,1 Masch .Hauptgefr.,1 Masch.Gefr.) 8 Diesel engines(1 Stabs.Ob.Masch.2 Masch.Maat,1 Masch.Gefr.4 Masch.Ob.Gefr.) 7 Electric Engines( 1 Ob.Maschinist,2 Masch.Maat,4 Masch.Ob.Gefr.) Happy saliling