What, No Tip? Service Charge Faces Struggle at Restaurants - Page 4

Onkel Neal · 09-09-09, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Agreed. I'd gladly welcome the whole system being scrapped and the tip being added into the menu price and have the wait staff paid a living wage instead of their $4900 a year "salary".

Agreed, that would be my preference. Then if you left a dollar tip for great service, it would mean something besides "Here, I hope this helps you avoid starvation".

09-09-09, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Agreed. I'd gladly welcome the whole system being scrapped and the tip being added into the menu price and have the wait staff paid a living wage instead of their $4900 a year "salary".

So what is the living wage you are talking about and is that the living wage cap? Perhaps a low wage is best because it allows people to get out of their feebleness and actually succeed. Individuality and low wages promote success.

Platapus · 09-09-09, 08:19 PM

I am a big tipper.

It is my form of charitable/social/economic stimulus.

I will never give any money to someone begging on the street. But you show me someone who is struggling to work for a living and they will get my financial support.

Platapus · 09-09-09, 08:22 PM

There are some states that artificially increase a waitstaffs salary for tax purposes. In MN, at least when I was dating a MN waitress a million years ago, the state added 6% to her salary and she had to pay taxes on this salary+6% regardless of whether she got the tip.

So when people stiffed her for a tip, they were not only not giving her any money they were costing her additional taxes.

That does not seem right to me.

Mush Martin · 09-09-09, 08:42 PM

on sunday last week my shift seated and fed 3700 people.

sadly no tips for the kitchen at the university. However when I
have done restaurant work the kitchen always received a share of
the tips, so If your waiter trips you up but the food is good and
done in a reasonable time, should you really holdout on the whole tip?

It's a long long way from the easiest job Ive ever done, its just
the one I enjoy the most.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tip

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mookiemookie · 09-09-09, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CastleBravo

Individuality and low wages promote success.

You have got to be the most elaborate troll I've ever seen. I have to believe that as it's the only way I can fit my mind around such completely stupid statements such as this.

Schroeder · 09-10-09, 04:22 AM

It does promote the success of the owner, doesn't it?

Stealth Hunter · 09-10-09, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder

It does promote the success of the owner, doesn't it?

Quite so.

Aramike · 09-10-09, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Agreed. I'd gladly welcome the whole system being scrapped and the tip being added into the menu price and have the wait staff paid a living wage instead of their $4900 a year "salary".

I disagree. I have no problem with the Service Industry being compensated (and therefore judged) directly by the people they serve.

My philosophy about any job is simple: don't like it? Do something else.

mookiemookie · 09-11-09, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Aramike

I disagree. I have no problem with the Service Industry being compensated (and therefore judged) directly by the people they serve.

My philosophy about any job is simple: don't like it? Do something else.

If everyone in the service industry did something else, there would be nobody left in the service industry.

Aramike · 09-11-09, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

If everyone in the service industry did something else, there would be nobody left in the service industry.

But that argument is based upon the assumption that everyone in the service industry is unhappy there.

There are plenty of people that make a decent, living wage as waitstaff.

SteamWake · 09-11-09, 10:37 AM

90% of waitress are 'aspiring acteresses' :rotfl:

AVGWarhawk · 09-11-09, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Aramike

But that argument is based upon the assumption that everyone in the service industry is unhappy there.

There are plenty of people that make a decent, living wage as waitstaff.

Yeah, they sure do. My brother-in-law owns a bar. The people who actually make the drinks make upward of $600.00 for three night work. Plus their hourly wage. Not bad for three nights working. They are happy.

Aramike · 09-11-09, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Yeah, they sure do. My brother-in-law owns a bar. The people who actually make the drinks make upward of $600.00 for three night work. Plus their hourly wage. Not bad for three nights working. They are happy.

Exactly. One must wonder what they would think about being put on a base wage just because other people aren't quite cutting it...

09-09-09, 08:19 PM	#48
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,362 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	I am a big tipper. It is my form of charitable/social/economic stimulus. I will never give any money to someone begging on the street. But you show me someone who is struggling to work for a living and they will get my financial support. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

09-09-09, 08:22 PM	#49
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,362 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	There are some states that artificially increase a waitstaffs salary for tax purposes. In MN, at least when I was dating a MN waitress a million years ago, the state added 6% to her salary and she had to pay taxes on this salary+6% regardless of whether she got the tip. So when people stiffed her for a tip, they were not only not giving her any money they were costing her additional taxes. That does not seem right to me. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

09-09-09, 08:42 PM	#50
Mush Martin Eternal Patrol Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,398 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	on sunday last week my shift seated and fed 3700 people. sadly no tips for the kitchen at the university. However when I have done restaurant work the kitchen always received a share of the tips, so If your waiter trips you up but the food is good and done in a reasonable time, should you really holdout on the whole tip? It's a long long way from the easiest job Ive ever done, its just the one I enjoy the most. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tip M __________________ RIP Mush Tutorial

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Schroeder Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Banana Republic of Germany Posts: 6,170 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	It does promote the success of the owner, doesn't it? __________________ Putting Germ back into Germany.

09-11-09, 10:37 AM	#57
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	90% of waitress are 'aspiring acteresses' :rotfl: __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648