US made telly shows are dying.. - Page 2

Dowly · 08-29-09, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Task Force

(I think movies were better in the pre 1980s-1980s-early 90s

I beg to differ.

I loved movies up until 2000. They had flashy effects, but all of them had a meaning and were tied to the plot. Take Independency Day for one, only the needed CGI was used.

Tho, I must say, when it comes to horror (which is my favorite genre naturally) nothing beats the late 1970 and 1980 movies. Anything from J. Carpenter in 1980 was a sure hit. And 1990 was pretty much 'owned' by Stephen King' movies. The Stand was so darn awesome!

Task Force · 08-29-09, 05:28 PM

yea, there were some good movies in the late 90s also...

The late 90s early 2000s is when the us entertainment started really going to hell...

Dowly · 08-29-09, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Task Force

The late 90s early 2000s is when the us entertainment started really going to hell...

Aye, that's true. The movie nowadays are just about CGI, nothing more.

I'm not against CGI, but if it's used to replace scenes that could've been done without it, it's always a bad thing.

But hey, atleast we got Pixar still doing some quality CGI stuff for kids (and me

).

The thing with CGI nowadays is that it's made so darn easy to do. Poser, Vue and FumeFX, those are the programs you need to make a very real looking CGI. And the cost is minimal (havent checked but I'd say $2000 total) compared to a movie budget.

stabiz · 08-29-09, 06:04 PM

BBC knows tv, I wish the BBC would get the responsibility for all tv shows on the planet. I am watching "Natures most amazing moments" right now, and it freakin rocks.

"Planet Earth", "Natures most amazing moments" and "Yellowstone" = great TV.

I also love Top gear, of course. (You should have seen the ****ty version Norwegian TV made, it starred a hardcore Christian guy who always looked like he was doing amphetamine, and he constantly tried to shove a whole bread up exhaust pipes of cars to show how big the pipes were . . . actually, this might come of as drunken blabber, so i will prove it: it has English subs, and gets really embarrassing from 1:30)

Sea Demon · 08-29-09, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Evidently, the public likes dumb "reality" crappy shows. It sells advertising.

Yes. So many stupid programs...I can't even watch modern TV shows anymore. And screw "reality" TV. When looking for sitcom type programming, the only thing I can stomach is going down memory lane like on TVLand. Some of those old episodes of Sanford and Son crack me up. The closest I can get to "modern" is some of the episodes of Seinfeld. That's it. Then it's Sports, Discovery, Sci-Fi, and a few others.

mookiemookie · 08-29-09, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

TV production, like any product, has to respond to the desires of the customer.

Evidently, the public likes dumb "reality" crappy shows. It sells advertising.

That's why they call Television a Medium. Because it is rarely well done.

Not to mention that reality shows are, by comparison, very cheap to make.

There's still great TV around - The Wire comes to mind. Planet Earth (well, that was BBC, but still), Mad Men...I'm also a sucker for House.

Dowly · 08-29-09, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by stabiz

BBC knows tv, I wish the BBC would get the responsibility for all tv shows on the planet.

Amen to that! BBC makes some very good shows. Tho, some are a bit biased, but most are very well done.

Task Force · 08-29-09, 07:01 PM

yep, bbc does do a good job with there tv...

I think the only good channels over here are... (in my opinion.)
BBC america
Discovery
TV land
Vh1 puts some intresting stuff on sometimes
animal planet can be cool at times
err... and thats about it...

08-29-09, 07:40 PM

It's all about Family Guy nothing else.

Cohaagen · 08-29-09, 07:59 PM

As much as I detest almost all US TV programmes that get shown in the UK (and that's a lot), it must be noted that there are some good shows amongst them - The Wire is great, though massively over-praised, and does feature a reesty smackhead who is a dead ringer for Hailie Selassie in a ripped cagoule

. Monk is also good fun, Deadwood isn't bad for all that it is an artful self-serious swearathon featuring Lovejoy after some serious Just For Men treatment.

Sadly, there are no more series like X-Files (best show of the 90s), Homicide, NYPD Blue (cue shaky-cam), new Outer Limits, Star Trek: TNG, Babylon 5, My So-Called Life, and so on. I have also been banging on for years that TV, film and music took a serious wrong turn around 2000/2001, and that we've nothing to show for this rotten decade. It says a lot about our cultural bankruptcy that we've fallen back so heavily on crappy, threadbare tropes such as vampires, werewolves and zombies these last five years or so.

The BBC is still a "national treasure" [vomits at the phrase] and is at its best when it isn't trying to ape US shows (see Spooks as an example of this horrible practice). Even the new Doctor Who is a bag of balls. I wish someone would tell Russell T. Davies that crap CGI isn't camp.

The BBC was at its best during the 80s. If you want to see an example of the best it can do, download or buy a mini-series called Edge Of Darkness. Best thing the corporation has ever done

Dowly · 08-29-09, 08:02 PM

Yes yes yes, there are some great shows. X-Files and Babylon 5 are hands down the best ever scifi shows ever made.

(Star Trek fans please PM so I can insult you privately

)

MothBalls · 08-29-09, 08:28 PM

I save myself quite a bit of money every month because of American television. I refuse to pay for cable or satellite. What good is 900 channels if 899 of them are all crap?

I live in the US and the only thing I ever watch on TV is BBC. Mostly the news and a few comedy shows like "Waiting for God", "As Time Goes By". At least Brit humor is actually funny.

American television, especially the commercials, really insult my intelligence. How stupid do they think we are? I don't think I've watched an American sitcom since "Sanford and Son" went off the air.

Task Force · 08-29-09, 08:55 PM

Yea, well you see, alot of americans dont request good tv, they will watch anything... sadly it is because as i mentioned before americas culture...

no wonder other countrys have somany stereotypes for americans...

nikimcbee · 08-29-09, 09:08 PM

I just want the original A-Team back

.

SUBMAN1 · 08-29-09, 09:26 PM

So what you guys are saying is that you hate reality TV shows. Join the club. All media in the US of A is degrading as time goes on. This is why I don't watch it much anymore either.

Why reality TV shows? They are cheap. No script writers need to be paid. No actors need to be paid. And the best part? People like them! It's all profit.

Terrible.

-S

08-29-09, 05:28 PM	#17
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	yea, there were some good movies in the late 90s also... The late 90s early 2000s is when the us entertainment started really going to hell... __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

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stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	BBC knows tv, I wish the BBC would get the responsibility for all tv shows on the planet. I am watching "Natures most amazing moments" right now, and it freakin rocks. "Planet Earth", "Natures most amazing moments" and "Yellowstone" = great TV. I also love Top gear, of course. (You should have seen the ****ty version Norwegian TV made, it starred a hardcore Christian guy who always looked like he was doing amphetamine, and he constantly tried to shove a whole bread up exhaust pipes of cars to show how big the pipes were . . . actually, this might come of as drunken blabber, so i will prove it: it has English subs, and gets really embarrassing from 1:30) __________________

08-29-09, 07:01 PM	#23
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	yep, bbc does do a good job with there tv... I think the only good channels over here are... (in my opinion.) BBC america Discovery TV land Vh1 puts some intresting stuff on sometimes animal planet can be cool at times err... and thats about it... __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

08-29-09, 08:55 PM	#28
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Yea, well you see, alot of americans dont request good tv, they will watch anything... sadly it is because as i mentioned before americas culture... no wonder other countrys have somany stereotypes for americans... __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

08-29-09, 09:08 PM	#29
nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,952 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	I just want the original A-Team back. __________________

08-29-09, 07:40 PM	#24
Lil' Subsim Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	It's all about Family Guy nothing else.

08-29-09, 07:59 PM	#25
Cohaagen Frogman Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: UK Posts: 296 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	As much as I detest almost all US TV programmes that get shown in the UK (and that's a lot), it must be noted that there are some good shows amongst them - The Wire is great, though massively over-praised, and does feature a reesty smackhead who is a dead ringer for Hailie Selassie in a ripped cagoule . Monk is also good fun, Deadwood isn't bad for all that it is an artful self-serious swearathon featuring Lovejoy after some serious Just For Men treatment. Sadly, there are no more series like X-Files (best show of the 90s), Homicide, NYPD Blue (cue shaky-cam), new Outer Limits, Star Trek: TNG, Babylon 5, My So-Called Life, and so on. I have also been banging on for years that TV, film and music took a serious wrong turn around 2000/2001, and that we've nothing to show for this rotten decade. It says a lot about our cultural bankruptcy that we've fallen back so heavily on crappy, threadbare tropes such as vampires, werewolves and zombies these last five years or so. The BBC is still a "national treasure" [vomits at the phrase] and is at its best when it isn't trying to ape US shows (see Spooks as an example of this horrible practice). Even the new Doctor Who is a bag of balls. I wish someone would tell Russell T. Davies that crap CGI isn't camp. The BBC was at its best during the 80s. If you want to see an example of the best it can do, download or buy a mini-series called Edge Of Darkness. Best thing the corporation has ever done

08-29-09, 08:02 PM	#26
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,054 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Yes yes yes, there are some great shows. X-Files and Babylon 5 are hands down the best ever scifi shows ever made. (Star Trek fans please PM so I can insult you privately )

08-29-09, 08:28 PM	#27
MothBalls Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,012 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	I save myself quite a bit of money every month because of American television. I refuse to pay for cable or satellite. What good is 900 channels if 899 of them are all crap? I live in the US and the only thing I ever watch on TV is BBC. Mostly the news and a few comedy shows like "Waiting for God", "As Time Goes By". At least Brit humor is actually funny. American television, especially the commercials, really insult my intelligence. How stupid do they think we are? I don't think I've watched an American sitcom since "Sanford and Son" went off the air.

08-29-09, 09:26 PM	#30
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	So what you guys are saying is that you hate reality TV shows. Join the club. All media in the US of A is degrading as time goes on. This is why I don't watch it much anymore either. Why reality TV shows? They are cheap. No script writers need to be paid. No actors need to be paid. And the best part? People like them! It's all profit. Terrible. -S __________________