The difference between public online racing and league racing

stabiz · 08-15-09, 12:19 PM

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Lionclaw · 08-15-09, 01:50 PM

Looks like fun racing in a league.

I've raced for some years now, but never online. Except for TrackMania, but that isn't really racing, It's more like a mix of fun & frustration trying to shave of that 0.1s or 0.01s.

I guess my interest really took off when I discovered rFactor, having raced previously in GTR2 and GT Legends and other titles.

Historic GT & Touring Cars and Grand Prix 1979 mod for rFactor!

Although I've purchased the newer Simbin titles but they seem to disagree with Vista after about 1+ hrs of racing with a freeze and ctd.

My main concern in online racing is lag. How is it like racing online and lag?

I guess it's like all online gaming. Find a server that's close to your location so the ping# isn't too high. Maybe I answered my own question there!

Syxx_Killer · 08-15-09, 01:56 PM

Great videos!

I watched the online one yesterday and that looked downright nuts. It was funny to watch. The league racing video looked like a lot of fun. I've played flight sims, RTS's, and FPS's online but never a racing game. I've always wanted to. One of these days I gotta get a good wheel and a good game to go with it. The online flight sims were ok, but the RTS's and FPS's just plain sucked.

FIREWALL · 08-15-09, 02:26 PM

What games are the two sites useing ?

stabiz · 08-15-09, 09:04 PM

Both videos are from rFactor with the brand new Endurance Series mod (basically American Le Mans series, Le Mans itself, and other endurance series mod). The first track is Laguna Seca and the second is Road America. Both brilliant tracks that show the world that Americans can turn right.

As for lag, a racing sim is less dependant on low ping than say a fps. Up to 200 ping is doable, whilst in a shooter that is way to high. Less than 100 is ideal of course, but if you trust and know the guys you are racing its no problem.

Edit: Syxx, if you want to go racing there is no desperate need to get the Logitech G25 (albeit the best wheel), I am on my third Logitech MOMO right now, and I love the thing. Thick rubber wheel that can take a pounding, and not to expensive.

Edit2: Lionclaw, you might want to check out rln.no

(rFactor & GTR Evolution, Norwegian, Swedish & Danish racers)

Captain Vlad · 08-16-09, 01:50 AM

Slight addition to what Stabiz said: If you have big feet, like mine, go ahead an get a G25 or some other pricier wheel that has metal pedals.

Otherwise, your size 14s will decimate plastic pedal set after plastic pedal set.

Cheaper to just buy the metal ones the first time, as I discovered myself.

TarJak · 08-16-09, 07:53 AM

I've got a Logitech Momo and woudn't swap it for anything other than a real car. Nice feel, accurate tracking and good programability. The pedals are not too small either.

Highbury · 08-16-09, 10:13 AM

I use the MOMO as well. My brother has the G25 and it is of course superior in all of it's inner workings but I feel like I am holding the wheel of a Lexus or something, the MOMO feels like a racing wheel to me.

What version of Laguna is that you are driving? It looks cleaner then the last I drove but still seems to have LOD issues. Also is it on rFC?

stabiz · 08-16-09, 11:04 AM

Its this one:

http://www.rfactorcentral.com/detail...=Laguna%20Seca

Its probaly the same as the one you have, only updated graphically. (A lot)

I agree that the G25 lacks that GT feel the thick MOMO has, but the brand spanking new G27 seems like a great wheel.

Falkirion · 08-16-09, 07:36 PM

Nice vids Stabiz, definitely shows how much you have to trust the drivers around you. I've seen some tight public oval racing in LFS, some big crashes there too even with everyone running just inches apart. But good clean racing otherwise

I should get rFactor, lord knows my brother would thank me for it.

Captain Vlad · 08-16-09, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TarJak

The pedals are not too small either.

I loved my Momo. I especially loved the integral shifter as the one weak point of the G25, to me, is the shifter unit's inability to firmly clamp to my desk.

The problem wasn't the size of the pedals, it was the fragility. I kept tearing them up, and while I figured out how to fix them, it was a 45 minute effort each time that kept happening more and more!

I suspect my own enthusiasm played some part in this.

08-15-09, 12:19 PM	#1
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	The difference between public online racing and league racing Public: League: __________________

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FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	What games are the two sites useing ? __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

08-15-09, 09:04 PM	#5
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Both videos are from rFactor with the brand new Endurance Series mod (basically American Le Mans series, Le Mans itself, and other endurance series mod). The first track is Laguna Seca and the second is Road America. Both brilliant tracks that show the world that Americans can turn right. As for lag, a racing sim is less dependant on low ping than say a fps. Up to 200 ping is doable, whilst in a shooter that is way to high. Less than 100 is ideal of course, but if you trust and know the guys you are racing its no problem. Edit: Syxx, if you want to go racing there is no desperate need to get the Logitech G25 (albeit the best wheel), I am on my third Logitech MOMO right now, and I love the thing. Thick rubber wheel that can take a pounding, and not to expensive. Edit2: Lionclaw, you might want to check out rln.no (rFactor & GTR Evolution, Norwegian, Swedish & Danish racers) __________________

08-16-09, 01:50 AM	#6
Captain Vlad Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Pollard, Oklahoma Posts: 679 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Slight addition to what Stabiz said: If you have big feet, like mine, go ahead an get a G25 or some other pricier wheel that has metal pedals. Otherwise, your size 14s will decimate plastic pedal set after plastic pedal set. Cheaper to just buy the metal ones the first time, as I discovered myself. __________________ "Stop sounding battlestations just to hear the alarm."

08-16-09, 11:04 AM	#9
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Its this one: http://www.rfactorcentral.com/detail...=Laguna%20Seca Its probaly the same as the one you have, only updated graphically. (A lot) I agree that the G25 lacks that GT feel the thick MOMO has, but the brand spanking new G27 seems like a great wheel. __________________

08-15-09, 01:50 PM	#2
Lionclaw Ace of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,006 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Looks like fun racing in a league. I've raced for some years now, but never online. Except for TrackMania, but that isn't really racing, It's more like a mix of fun & frustration trying to shave of that 0.1s or 0.01s. I guess my interest really took off when I discovered rFactor, having raced previously in GTR2 and GT Legends and other titles. Historic GT & Touring Cars and Grand Prix 1979 mod for rFactor! Although I've purchased the newer Simbin titles but they seem to disagree with Vista after about 1+ hrs of racing with a freeze and ctd. My main concern in online racing is lag. How is it like racing online and lag? I guess it's like all online gaming. Find a server that's close to your location so the ping# isn't too high. Maybe I answered my own question there!

08-15-09, 01:56 PM	#3
Syxx_Killer Admiral Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 2,387 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	Great videos! I watched the online one yesterday and that looked downright nuts. It was funny to watch. The league racing video looked like a lot of fun. I've played flight sims, RTS's, and FPS's online but never a racing game. I've always wanted to. One of these days I gotta get a good wheel and a good game to go with it. The online flight sims were ok, but the RTS's and FPS's just plain sucked.

08-16-09, 07:53 AM	#7
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	I've got a Logitech Momo and woudn't swap it for anything other than a real car. Nice feel, accurate tracking and good programability. The pedals are not too small either.

08-16-09, 10:13 AM	#8
Highbury The Old Man Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: 51.557, -0.102 Posts: 1,311 Downloads: 177 Uploads: 0	I use the MOMO as well. My brother has the G25 and it is of course superior in all of it's inner workings but I feel like I am holding the wheel of a Lexus or something, the MOMO feels like a racing wheel to me. What version of Laguna is that you are driving? It looks cleaner then the last I drove but still seems to have LOD issues. Also is it on rFC?

08-16-09, 07:36 PM	#10
Falkirion Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Melbourne, AUS Posts: 1,043 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	Nice vids Stabiz, definitely shows how much you have to trust the drivers around you. I've seen some tight public oval racing in LFS, some big crashes there too even with everyone running just inches apart. But good clean racing otherwise I should get rFactor, lord knows my brother would thank me for it.