Reduced Rank after a successful patrol in GWX -- please help.

Easy_Eight65 · 06-30-09, 03:28 PM

I recently returned from a modestly successful GWX 3.0 patrol (54, 000 GRT) and was frustrated to see that I was "promoted" from Kapitanleutnant to Oberleutnant...aghhh! Has this happened to anyone else? And does anyone have a fix / work-around? I've already tried reloading to a few earlier in-mission game saves -- sadly to no avail. Please help -- It took me forever to get Kptlt. and I'd like to move up in rank instead of down.

Cheers,

Easy_Eight65

Pohl · 06-30-09, 06:30 PM

actually that's a promotion, after Oberleutnant you get Korvetten Kaptain I think...but yeah Oberleutnant z. S. is a promotion =), your officers can also get this rank as well

Kpt. Lehmann · 06-30-09, 06:39 PM

Hi Easy Eight,

You were very likely demoted due to a stock SH3 game bug.

In SH3, your rank is dependant on maintaining a certain renown level.

For example, your renown level is "10,000" and your rank is "KptLt"... and the minimum renown to maintain your rank as KptLt is "9000".... if you spend 2000 renown points to buy a snorkel... you will be reduced in rank to ObLt because your new renown level is "8000."

(The above numbers are purely for example and are not actual for GWX.)

It sucks.

However, it is not related to the GWX mod... but the SH3 base game itself and is something we are stuck with... as alternatives were far less attractive to us during development.

Graf Paper · 06-30-09, 09:04 PM

The Renown system is such a hassle to deal with, I'm amazed nobody has ever released a mod that allows you to manually choose your own renown points so you can avoid loss in rank every time you want to upgrade your u-boat or get a new one.

Hanomag · 06-30-09, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kpt. Lehmann

Hi Easy Eight,

You were very likely demoted due to a stock SH3 game bug.

In SH3, your rank is dependant on maintaining a certain renown level.

For example, your renown level is "10,000" and your rank is "KptLt"... and the minimum renown to maintain your rank as KptLt is "9000".... if you spend 2000 renown points to buy a snorkel... you will be reduced in rank to ObLt because your new renown level is "8000."

(The above numbers are purely for example and are not actual for GWX.)

It sucks.

However, it is not related to the GWX mod... but the SH3 base game itself and is something we are stuck with... as alternatives were far less attractive to us during development.

So is there a set level somewhere? A chart, a graph, a scrap of paper? An old faded pdf that specs out the numbers for each rank level or is it random.

Oh god.. tell me its not in the manual...

Kpt. Lehmann · 06-30-09, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanomag

Oh god.. tell me its not in the manual...

Its not in the manual.

You can find all those numbers at the top quarter of the Basic.Cfg file in data/Cfg.

Hanomag · 06-30-09, 10:44 PM

Lehmann you rock..

Here are some...

AcademyBonus=1000
RankLevel0=0; SCORE
RankLevel1=1499; SCORE
RankLevel2=7999; SCORE
RankLevel3=14999; SCORE
MedalSettings0=0.25
MedalSettings1=0.5
MedalSettings2=1
MedalScore0=3000;2 class, SCORE
MedalScore1=7000;1 class, SCORE
MedalScore2=15000; knight, SCORE
MedalScore3=25000; oak leaves, SCORE
MedalScore4=37000;swords, SCORE
MedalScore5=50000;diamonds, SCORE
MedalScore6=80000;all, SCORE

Kpt. Lehmann · 06-30-09, 10:58 PM

Only on Tuesdays.

The rest of the week I like Klingon Opera.

Just remember there is more than one basic.cfg in GWX. If you change one... you need to mirror it in the other. (Late War Sensors included optional mod.)

andym · 07-01-09, 10:41 AM

Just saw an Internal Memo from Herr Admiral Canaris............hes not happy with you,it must be the English Edition of "Leather Skateboarder
Monthly" that you get delivered,its not terribly Teutonic you see.

Easy_Eight65 · 07-03-09, 04:02 PM

Many thanks, Kpt. Lehmann for your reply... and to everyone else for their input / suggestions. Got my hard-earned KptLt rank back.

Quantifying this renown-generated rank advancement (or reduction) will make me think twice before spending another 9,000 on a shiny, new U-boat (and leaving moths in my BdU bank account). On the flip-side, saving it will give me something to shoot for promotion-wise. Maybe someone should mod a renown "overdraft protection" system... because getting demoted (even temporarily) positively blows prop-mangled tuna chunks.

Happy 4th of July Weekend to all (if you are celebrating it)!

Cheers,

Easy_Eight65

06-30-09, 03:28 PM	#1
Easy_Eight65 Helmsman Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: New York City, USA Posts: 105 Downloads: 323 Uploads: 0	Reduced Rank after a successful patrol in GWX -- please help. I recently returned from a modestly successful GWX 3.0 patrol (54, 000 GRT) and was frustrated to see that I was "promoted" from Kapitanleutnant to Oberleutnant...aghhh! Has this happened to anyone else? And does anyone have a fix / work-around? I've already tried reloading to a few earlier in-mission game saves -- sadly to no avail. Please help -- It took me forever to get Kptlt. and I'd like to move up in rank instead of down. Cheers, Easy_Eight65 __________________ "You may fire when ready, Gridley." --Commodore George Dewey

06-30-09, 06:30 PM	#2
Pohl Sparky Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 157 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	actually that's a promotion, after Oberleutnant you get Korvetten Kaptain I think...but yeah Oberleutnant z. S. is a promotion =), your officers can also get this rank as well __________________ Current Careers: U-177 Type IXD2, 10th Flotilla March 13, 1943 U-3502 Type XXI, 7th/13th Flotilla April 14, 1942 100% realism, GWX 3.0, SH3 Commander 3.2

06-30-09, 06:39 PM	#3
Kpt. Lehmann GWX Project Director Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 6,994 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	Hi Easy Eight, You were very likely demoted due to a stock SH3 game bug. In SH3, your rank is dependant on maintaining a certain renown level. For example, your renown level is "10,000" and your rank is "KptLt"... and the minimum renown to maintain your rank as KptLt is "9000".... if you spend 2000 renown points to buy a snorkel... you will be reduced in rank to ObLt because your new renown level is "8000." (The above numbers are purely for example and are not actual for GWX.) It sucks. However, it is not related to the GWX mod... but the SH3 base game itself and is something we are stuck with... as alternatives were far less attractive to us during development. __________________ www.thegreywolves.com All you need is good men. - Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock

06-30-09, 09:04 PM	#4
Graf Paper Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pacific Northwest United States Posts: 1,146 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 2	The Renown system is such a hassle to deal with, I'm amazed nobody has ever released a mod that allows you to manually choose your own renown points so you can avoid loss in rank every time you want to upgrade your u-boat or get a new one. __________________ Still sailing the high seas, hunting convoys with those who join me.

06-30-09, 10:44 PM	#7
Hanomag Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: LI NY Posts: 964 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Lehmann you rock.. Here are some... AcademyBonus=1000 RankLevel0=0; SCORE RankLevel1=1499; SCORE RankLevel2=7999; SCORE RankLevel3=14999; SCORE MedalSettings0=0.25 MedalSettings1=0.5 MedalSettings2=1 MedalScore0=3000;2 class, SCORE MedalScore1=7000;1 class, SCORE MedalScore2=15000; knight, SCORE MedalScore3=25000; oak leaves, SCORE MedalScore4=37000;swords, SCORE MedalScore5=50000;diamonds, SCORE MedalScore6=80000;all, SCORE __________________ "Only if I can save first..."

06-30-09, 10:58 PM	#8
Kpt. Lehmann GWX Project Director Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 6,994 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	Only on Tuesdays. The rest of the week I like Klingon Opera. Just remember there is more than one basic.cfg in GWX. If you change one... you need to mirror it in the other. (Late War Sensors included optional mod.) __________________ www.thegreywolves.com All you need is good men. - Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock

07-01-09, 10:41 AM	#9
andym Weps Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK Posts: 365 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 2	Just saw an Internal Memo from Herr Admiral Canaris............hes not happy with you,it must be the English Edition of "Leather Skateboarder Monthly" that you get delivered,its not terribly Teutonic you see. __________________ GWX 3.0 GOLD,SH3 Commander.

07-03-09, 04:02 PM	#10
Easy_Eight65 Helmsman Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: New York City, USA Posts: 105 Downloads: 323 Uploads: 0	Reduced Rank query -- Thanks! Many thanks, Kpt. Lehmann for your reply... and to everyone else for their input / suggestions. Got my hard-earned KptLt rank back. Quantifying this renown-generated rank advancement (or reduction) will make me think twice before spending another 9,000 on a shiny, new U-boat (and leaving moths in my BdU bank account). On the flip-side, saving it will give me something to shoot for promotion-wise. Maybe someone should mod a renown "overdraft protection" system... because getting demoted (even temporarily) positively blows prop-mangled tuna chunks. Happy 4th of July Weekend to all (if you are celebrating it)! Cheers, Easy_Eight65 __________________ "You may fire when ready, Gridley." --Commodore George Dewey