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It takes one to know one as they say. Russian can see our fate because they have been there. Why is it that Americans are so dumb these days?
-S http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/107459-1/ Quote:
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Capitalsim represents individual achievement and that is something that cannot be tolerated by communistic mindset. You cannot control the masses with capitalism being in place in a viable form. Communism is the ultimate expression of power control. America got what it voted for...
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I wouldnt consign america to the bankruptcy books just yet it still has alot to offer and russia only collapsed because it spent atleast three decades if not more over spending on nearly everything and eventually yes you do have to pay them loans back so it was only a matter of time before the soviet union went pop.
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There have been much worse economic collapses before this and there will be worse in the future. But our economic collapse is greater than Russian prosperity. The only thing different now is the socialist solutions Obama is looking to institute. He studied well in college of the Soviet model and is instinctively going there now. If he has any survival instinct at all (and he must, coming from the political world of Chicago) he will change when opposition gets ready to steamroller him.
If not, the backlash will be terrific. Americans are about independence and individual responsibility, not dependence on government.
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I can't see the USA going down a communist road yet... there are still a lot of people who fundamentally believe in Capitalism there, and would be a great big ro******* for anyone who wanted to make the states communist.
I don't even think Obama wants a communist system, just because he wants to create a more fair society doesn't mean his a Marxist. And when I say fair I don't mean equal, you will never have a truly equal society because there will always be someone who has something others don't, weather it be personal wealth or love there will always be something we want. From what I gather he wants to fundamentally reform the health system to something similar to what we have in Great Britain, which is a good thing. With the GDP of the USA they could have a health care system the likes we can only dream of here. LBJ wanted social reform, you didn't see people calling him a communist? The only reason LBJ didn't get there was Vietnam sucking his treasury dry. Why do people in the Western world away's class "equal" or "fair" as communism? Capitalism works, it just needs regulation to make sure cock ups like what we're suffering now don't happen again. What's to say that making sure people can be cared for in the best possible way when they need it, or to be assured they can have a roof over their heads if something happens is a bad thing? Its a good thing, sometimes we get so comfortable in our own lives we forget there are people who don't have a home due to circumstances out of their control, or can't afford "health insurance" in the USA. Personally, I hate the very concept of paying for general hospital care. Imagine it... "I'm very sorry Mrs Smith, your Son past away on the operating table. That will be $4000 please".
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Not communisim, ... socialisim.
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I hope that there truly are enough capitalist who will steer the economy in the right direction in spite of Obama's wealth redistribution. What worries me is that our society is becoming an entitlement society which plays perfectly into the hands of socialism.
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![]() I know, but it seems that when people in the US mention the work socialism everybody gasps and thinks there's a Stalin worshiping lunatic on the loose. At least that's the impression I get over here in the UK.
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Whats the difference? Even the Russian used to call themselves Socialists. So does China.
Endgame - It's still an oligarchy. -S |
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An Oligarchy (Greek Ὀλιγαρχία, Oligarkhía) is a form of government where power effectively rests with a small elite segment of society distinguished by royal, wealth, family, military or religious hegemony.
If the emphasis is on the word 'effectively' and we ignore the 'royal', sounds like the USA, and all other democracies, for that matter, are oligarchies too. |
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time to start listening to voice of russia.
http://www.vor.ru/world_next.html
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