Stock SH4 - Are there IJN Subs to sink?

BULL · 04-17-09, 02:10 PM

I am new to this forum and to playing SH4. I am have for the most part completed training and I am just now in my first patrol of my first campaign in the stock game. I am running high realism... manual TDC and I am finally getting the hang of it and sinking ships (when the torpedoes work that is!)

Now to my question.... Back in SH1 you would encounter IJN subs and do battle with them. In the recognition manuals, I don't see that there are any IJN subs and yet there were many duals between US and IJN subs during the war. Are there IJN Subs in the stock game or can they be added on? I tried to search this forum but didn't find this topic so sorry if this is a repeat.

Thanks!
BULL

peabody · 04-17-09, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BULL

I am new to this forum and to playing SH4. I am have for the most part completed training and I am just now in my first patrol of my first campaign in the stock game. I am running high realism... manual TDC and I am finally getting the hang of it and sinking ships (when the torpedoes work that is!)

Now to my question.... Back in SH1 you would encounter IJN subs and do battle with them. In the recognition manuals, I don't see that there are any IJN subs and yet there were many duals between US and IJN subs during the war. Are there IJN Subs in the stock game or can they be added on? I tried to search this forum but didn't find this topic so sorry if this is a repeat.

Thanks!
BULL

Welcome Bull,

There are none in the stock game. I hear there are in some MODs, but I haven't played the big MODs.
There are 2 Japanese subs, Sen Toku and the Minisub in stock but neither one does anything, they won't move and you can't sink them. But the Sen Toku has been Modded to be AI and can be added if you know how. If you don't then ask.

Also when asking a question you should specify whether you are SH4 1.4 or 1.5. It make a difference on some ships whether they will work or not. If you don't know, 1.5 is the Uboat add on but it also updates SH4 to version 1.5.

Peabody

BULL · 04-20-09, 08:18 PM

Thanks Peabody.

I am running v1.4. I will have to look into adding v1.5 uboats - does that replace the need for me to get SH3 that I don't have either? I used to run SH2 but then my computer got old and there were other priorities.

Thanks again!

Torplexed · 04-20-09, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BULL

Thanks Peabody.

I am running v1.4. I will have to look into adding v1.5 uboats - does that replace the need for me to get SH3 that I don't have either? I used to run SH2 but then my computer got old and there were other priorities.

Thanks again!

You dont' need SH3 to run the SH4 U-Boat expansion. It's a SH4 add-on that gives you the ability to command a U-Boat based in the Far East as well as updating SH4 to 1.5.

I remember the IJN subs in SH1. Although they could move about on their own power they weren't much more than a different breed of surface ship. I don't recall them ever submerging when attacked, or initiating a torpedo attack of their own. Hopefully we'll see something like that in the future.

difool2 · 04-22-09, 11:51 PM

I recall them submerging in SH1, but yeah they wouldn't fire torps.

Oneshot/Onekill · 04-23-09, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by difool2

I recall them submerging in SH1, but yeah they wouldn't fire torps.

Actually the IJN subs in SH1 DID fire torpedoes at you if you remained on the surface long enough after encountering them.

aanker · 04-23-09, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Oneshot/Onekill

Actually the IJN subs in SH1 DID fire torpedoes at you if you remained on the surface long enough after encountering them.

Yes, they sure did fire torpedoes and submerge. They also sailed alone or in groups of 2 or 3. I remember that after evading a blown attack the best technique was to order my boat to return to their original base course and try to reacquire them on SJ after they thought it was safe enough to surface a few hours and nm later. I really liked sinking SH1 subs. Once I got lucky and targeted and sunk an IJN sub after he submerged and had lowered his scope.

Ah, the good old days!

Happy Hunting!

Art - "Sub Killer" ..... lol

ichso · 04-23-09, 04:16 PM

I remember me hitting an IJN sub in SH1. I assumed he would see the torpedo trail and would go for a dive. So I set the running depth to 40ft or something. And guess what ... I hit him right on his way down

Vandrith · 04-25-09, 05:20 PM

I remember encountering a Jap sub in TMO once, it was weird cuz I had a visual but couldn't see it myself also, it kicked my ass....

miner1436 · 04-28-09, 03:55 PM

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=137591

gimpy117 · 04-28-09, 09:58 PM

I thought some could be found in harbors in stock...

BULL · 05-01-09, 01:19 PM

Thanks for the mod - I can't wait to sink a sub again!

uusmario · 05-01-09, 02:58 PM

One Japanise Sub I-400 class is stationed in Yokosuka harbor (stock game), rather pacifistic one.He doesn't mind being torpedod.

It's also a very thought target, it took nearly 10 torpedos do sink it and credited 0.tons.

04-17-09, 02:10 PM	#1
BULL Seaman Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 39 Downloads: 241 Uploads: 0	Stock SH4 - Are there IJN Subs to sink? I am new to this forum and to playing SH4. I am have for the most part completed training and I am just now in my first patrol of my first campaign in the stock game. I am running high realism... manual TDC and I am finally getting the hang of it and sinking ships (when the torpedoes work that is!) Now to my question.... Back in SH1 you would encounter IJN subs and do battle with them. In the recognition manuals, I don't see that there are any IJN subs and yet there were many duals between US and IJN subs during the war. Are there IJN Subs in the stock game or can they be added on? I tried to search this forum but didn't find this topic so sorry if this is a repeat. Thanks! BULL

04-23-09, 04:16 PM	#8
ichso Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Germany's oldest city alive Posts: 1,066 Downloads: 57 Uploads: 0	I remember me hitting an IJN sub in SH1. I assumed he would see the torpedo trail and would go for a dive. So I set the running depth to 40ft or something. And guess what ... I hit him right on his way down __________________ My Subskins: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=164169

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Vandrith A-ganger Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Apple Valley, MN Posts: 80 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	I remember encountering a Jap sub in TMO once, it was weird cuz I had a visual but couldn't see it myself also, it kicked my ass.... __________________ Ultima Ratio Regum (The Final Argument of the Kings) Sig by Gunfighter

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04-20-09, 08:18 PM	#3
BULL Seaman Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 39 Downloads: 241 Uploads: 0	Thanks Peabody. I am running v1.4. I will have to look into adding v1.5 uboats - does that replace the need for me to get SH3 that I don't have either? I used to run SH2 but then my computer got old and there were other priorities. Thanks again!

04-22-09, 11:51 PM	#5
difool2 Commander Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 459 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	I recall them submerging in SH1, but yeah they wouldn't fire torps.

04-28-09, 03:55 PM	#10
miner1436 Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 808 Downloads: 108 Uploads: 3	http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=137591

05-01-09, 01:19 PM	#12
BULL Seaman Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 39 Downloads: 241 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the mod - I can't wait to sink a sub again!

05-01-09, 02:58 PM	#13
uusmario Nub Join Date: May 2009 Location: Estonia Posts: 3 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	One Japanise Sub I-400 class is stationed in Yokosuka harbor (stock game), rather pacifistic one.He doesn't mind being torpedod. It's also a very thought target, it took nearly 10 torpedos do sink it and credited 0.tons.