Needed : exhaut smoke for IJN subs

keltos01 · 02-21-09, 01:52 PM

posted by mistake on the main forum where I didn't get the answers I needed...

I-54

I-56

I-16

I-60 :

I-52 :

Since when were submarines of WWII clean as a whistle ? no telltale smoke left when they operate (in game) on the surface ?

see RL pictures here above..

can someone mod this ? for the U-boot add on, german side ?

I was told that TMO fixed this but all I need is someone to tell me how to add it to any sub so I can fix my IJN subs...

Keltos

AOTD_MadMax · 02-21-09, 10:11 PM

Hi Keltos ,

you wanne have exhaustsmoke on your japanese Subs ?
Maybe i can do it for you !

Greets

Maddy

keltos01 · 02-22-09, 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AOTD_MadMax

Hi Keltos ,

you wanne have exhaustsmoke on your japanese Subs ?
Maybe i can do it for you !

Greets

Maddy

hi !

PLEASE DO !

here's the latest build of the submarine mod :

http://files.filefront.com/V+34+IJN+.../fileinfo.html

and you can't miss those big round exhausts on the japanese boats

Thanks Maddy !

keltos

rubenandthejets · 02-22-09, 03:12 AM

Hang on with that smoke! It wasn't normal, from the photo books I've been working on the captions state this is an anomaly and subs blowing smoke were on their way to get repairs.

keltos01 · 02-22-09, 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubenandthejets

Hang on with that smoke! It wasn't normal, from the photo books I've been working on the captions state this is an anomaly and subs blowing smoke were on their way to get repairs.

OK but I need evidence of that : a bibliography would help

so they didn't smoke... ? I guess it would make sense in a way, but even warships smoked ?

keltos

ruben you got pm / what time is it your time ?

rubenandthejets · 02-22-09, 03:31 AM

"Japanese Naval Warship Photo Album: Submanrines and Submarine Depot Ships.
Selected photos from the Archives of the Kure Maratime Museum. The Best from the Collection of Shizuo Fukui's Photos of Japanese Warships" ISBN4-478-95061-X

Flank speed on new subs on speed trials smoked a bit, otherwise generating smoke was a cause for concern and repair.

keltos01 · 02-22-09, 03:54 AM

thanks !

so I guess no good looking smoke then ...

keltos

AOTD_MadMax · 02-22-09, 07:06 AM

In FOTRS all subs got smoke but the smoke on FOTRS-Subs is very small.
Should i use the same settings on your subs ?

Greets

Maddy

keltos01 · 02-22-09, 08:38 AM

yeah, a little smoke can't hurt

keltos

AOTD_MadMax · 02-22-09, 10:12 AM

Hi Mate,

you got an PM !

The smoke on one boat for testing is done !
I send you the NSS_Jyunsen_B Dat-File for testing !

Greets

Maddy

keltos01 · 02-22-09, 12:33 PM

thanks mate !

can you post a picture ingame ? don't have time to try it for the moment..

keltos

pythos · 02-22-09, 12:51 PM

Not sure if this applies to all engines, but I do know that on aircraft, and automobile engine, as well as Diesel locomotives, when running above a specific percentage of power (usually above 75%) engines run in a full rich state. The extra fuel is not there for combustion, but in fact for cooling of the piston crown, and cylinder. This results in unburned fuel going through the exhaust system, which due to the heat of the system, incompletely burns on its way out, causing on some systems a black sooty stream. A sub going at full or flank would smoke like a son of a gun. Just watch a diesle train when it starts out. A plume of black smoke will exit the pipe. If the engine continued running at that starting rpm the black smoke would continue.

In Run silent run deep there is a description of the smoke pouring out of the four exhaust outlets as the boat moved forward at flank speed. (this is the novel mind you, not the movie).

When moving at flank or full, the sub was kicking up such a rukas behind it, stealth was no longer an issue so the smoke was really no matter.

Sledgehammer427 · 02-22-09, 01:04 PM

yeah, most engines shouldnt have any smoke at all, because of the fuel levels. but still, there should be some evidence of someting leaving the exhaust ports

AOTD_MadMax · 02-25-09, 09:17 AM

@ Keltos

did you have tested out the smoke on your subs i worked out for you ?

Greets

Maddy

keltos01 · 02-25-09, 10:41 AM

I will tonight.. busy RL lately...

keltos

02-21-09, 01:52 PM	#1
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	Needed : exhaut smoke for IJN subs posted by mistake on the main forum where I didn't get the answers I needed... I-54 I-56 I-16 I-60 : I-52 : Since when were submarines of WWII clean as a whistle ? no telltale smoke left when they operate (in game) on the surface ? see RL pictures here above.. can someone mod this ? for the U-boot add on, german side ? I was told that TMO fixed this but all I need is someone to tell me how to add it to any sub so I can fix my IJN subs... Keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

02-21-09, 10:11 PM	#2
AOTD_MadMax Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bremen/Germany Posts: 749 Downloads: 71 Uploads: 1	Hi Keltos , you wanne have exhaustsmoke on your japanese Subs ? Maybe i can do it for you ! Greets Maddy __________________ AOTD is gone, iam the last survivor ........

02-22-09, 03:12 AM	#4
rubenandthejets 中国水兵 Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 279 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	Hang on with that smoke! It wasn't normal, from the photo books I've been working on the captions state this is an anomaly and subs blowing smoke were on their way to get repairs. __________________ HMAS Sydney III "Thorough and Ready"

02-22-09, 03:31 AM	#6
rubenandthejets 中国水兵 Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 279 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	"Japanese Naval Warship Photo Album: Submanrines and Submarine Depot Ships. Selected photos from the Archives of the Kure Maratime Museum. The Best from the Collection of Shizuo Fukui's Photos of Japanese Warships" ISBN4-478-95061-X Flank speed on new subs on speed trials smoked a bit, otherwise generating smoke was a cause for concern and repair. __________________ HMAS Sydney III "Thorough and Ready"

02-22-09, 03:54 AM	#7
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	thanks ! so I guess no good looking smoke then ... keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

02-22-09, 07:06 AM	#8
AOTD_MadMax Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bremen/Germany Posts: 749 Downloads: 71 Uploads: 1	In FOTRS all subs got smoke but the smoke on FOTRS-Subs is very small. Should i use the same settings on your subs ? Greets Maddy __________________ AOTD is gone, iam the last survivor ........

02-22-09, 08:38 AM	#9
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	yeah, a little smoke can't hurt keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

02-22-09, 10:12 AM	#10
AOTD_MadMax Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bremen/Germany Posts: 749 Downloads: 71 Uploads: 1	Hi Mate, you got an PM ! The smoke on one boat for testing is done ! I send you the NSS_Jyunsen_B Dat-File for testing ! Greets Maddy __________________ AOTD is gone, iam the last survivor ........

02-22-09, 12:33 PM	#11
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	thanks mate ! can you post a picture ingame ? don't have time to try it for the moment.. keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

02-22-09, 12:51 PM	#12
pythos Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere over there Posts: 834 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	engines Not sure if this applies to all engines, but I do know that on aircraft, and automobile engine, as well as Diesel locomotives, when running above a specific percentage of power (usually above 75%) engines run in a full rich state. The extra fuel is not there for combustion, but in fact for cooling of the piston crown, and cylinder. This results in unburned fuel going through the exhaust system, which due to the heat of the system, incompletely burns on its way out, causing on some systems a black sooty stream. A sub going at full or flank would smoke like a son of a gun. Just watch a diesle train when it starts out. A plume of black smoke will exit the pipe. If the engine continued running at that starting rpm the black smoke would continue. In Run silent run deep there is a description of the smoke pouring out of the four exhaust outlets as the boat moved forward at flank speed. (this is the novel mind you, not the movie). When moving at flank or full, the sub was kicking up such a rukas behind it, stealth was no longer an issue so the smoke was really no matter.

02-22-09, 01:04 PM	#13
Sledgehammer427 PacWagon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Drinking coffee and staring at trees in Massachusetts Posts: 2,908 Downloads: 287 Uploads: 0	yeah, most engines shouldnt have any smoke at all, because of the fuel levels. but still, there should be some evidence of someting leaving the exhaust ports __________________ Cold Waters Voice Crew - Fire Control Officer Cmdr O. Myers - C/O USS Nautilus (SS-168) 114,000 tons sunk - 4 Spec Ops completed V-boat Nutcase - Need supplies? Japanese garrison on a small island in the way? Just give us a call! D4C!

02-25-09, 09:17 AM	#14
AOTD_MadMax Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bremen/Germany Posts: 749 Downloads: 71 Uploads: 1	@ Keltos did you have tested out the smoke on your subs i worked out for you ? Greets Maddy __________________ AOTD is gone, iam the last survivor ........

02-25-09, 10:41 AM	#15
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	I will tonight.. busy RL lately... keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"