Windows XP vs Vista

[Prof]

Originally Posted by Defiance

Eye candy in vista is nice in fact very nice, Makes xp visually plain to some degree

If I wanted pointless eye candy I'd have Mac.

Remember back if you had the 98 os then moved onto xp ? seemed so stunningly beautiful compared to the 98 os, Same goes when you move from xp to vista

Nope...the default Windows XP theme makes my desktop look like 'My First Operating System'. The first thing I do on any new XP install is to switch everything (desktop, start menu, control panel, file search, etc...) back into 'classic mode'.

I tried Vista on a friend's computer and I was appalled. It's slow, irritating and it rates 'flashiness' over function.

[CptCrunch]

Vista has huge overheads & requires 2x the amt of RAM to do the same job - thus have 2X the amt of ram with XP and 2X the performance. Vista is pretty - a rip off of Mac Os but its a pain in the ass - beware of any MS OS thats less than 18 months old - service pack , service pack, service pack. Drivers are a big issue - if you don't use a MS certified driver VISTA will imobilise the entire driver class eg. new vid card could disable all video drivers - useful eh? The problem is MS certification is avery expensive and very slow - so no one's waiting for it...

Beware ... better the devil we know

[seafarer]

Originally Posted by Prof

If I wanted pointless eye candy I'd have Mac.

For anything NON-gaming, I use my Apple machines - I'll take a Mac and OS X over Windows-ANYTHING any and every time. The sole and exclusive reason I even have a windows box is for games - Windows is pathetic for anything serious.

Sorry to get off topic, but everyone else was venting, and, well, it's like yawning. Ya' see someone else do, and you find yourself doing it too.

[TteFAboB]

My laptop came with Vista and the only reason it's still there is because I don't have time to wipe the drive and install XP.

Thanks for DX10 but I'll pass and wait for DX11.

[TDK1044]

I got XP two years after its relaese and I'll probably wait at least that long for Vista to get its act together.

[Chock]

I had to get Vista because I train people on computer software, so I needed experience with it, but, it was outrageously priced in the UK, and so I took the opportunity to combine buying it with a laptop purchase with it pre-installed (Vista Home Premium version). I'll be honest, there was no way I would have bought it had it not been for the fact that it was kind of a 'free' way to get it since I was going to buy a laptop anyway.

It has some nice features and some infuriating ones too, being as I also train people on Apple Macs a lot of the time (and I'm not a fan of Macs) I did not like the Vista OS attempt at looking pretty like OSX. I turned XP back to the 'classic interface' so I certainly do not care about translucent windows and crap like that in Vista, as it is just an uneccessary embelishment that hogs system resources as far as I can see. Another down side for me is the incessant security features of it, which are generally pointless on MS operating systems, as most hackers treat MS attempts at security as a red rag to a bull, so that's another minus point.

On the plus side, Vista does have some good features, the powerboost feature (whereby you can plug a USB flash drive into your Vista PC and it will configure the flash drive as RAM) is nice, as is the more visually helpful networking wizard, which I didn't really need, but I can see it would be attractive to the less computer-savvy user, and there are many 'wizards' built into it that are similarly helpful for the non-technical type of user.

It does run stuff that is written with Vista in mind much better than XP in my experience, for example, many people scoffed at the claim by Microsoft that MS Flight Simulator 10 would run better on Vista when it was accused of being too much of a resource hog and running choppy in XP. But those detractors have had to eat their words, because I can attest to the fact that FSX runs much smoother on my laptop with Vista than it does on my desktop with XP, and both have 2 gigs of RAM, but the laptop has no dedicated video card, whereas the desktop has a PCI-X card, so you'd think it would blow the laptop out of the water, but it doesn't, and that seems to be because of Vista.

I'm not about to take XP off my desktop, as frankly, I preferred Win98, nevermind XP, but I have to say that even with my dislike of Vista, it does have its plus points.

By the way, many online services do not support Vista yet, so watch out for that (an example being the BBC's 'watch again' service). Also note that it kisses Outlook Express goodbye too.



Chock

[U49]

XPSP2.

And I will NOT make any change at all to my running system! It is not entertaining for me to spend hour on hour to just to have another enviroment running which does the same, as my currently running environment: keep my games executable

XP works and everybody knows most of it's bugs and workarounds.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Chock

...It does run stuff that is written with Vista in mind much better than XP in my experience, for example, many people scoffed at the claim by Microsoft that MS Flight Simulator 10 would run better on Vista when it was accused of being too much of a resource hog and running choppy in XP. But those detractors have had to eat their words, because I can attest to the fact that FSX runs much smoother on my laptop with Vista than it does on my desktop with XP, and both have 2 gigs of RAM, but the laptop has no dedicated video card, whereas the desktop has a PCI-X card, so you'd think it would blow the laptop out of the water, but it doesn't, and that seems to be because of Vista....

I'm having a hard time beliving you don't have some major issue there! I think you need to re-evaluate by comparing apples to apples since it sounds like you are comparing apples to oranges in this case. Turn off all the graphical options on your PCI-E card and then take a look since that is effectively what you are doing by running it on your laptop.

-S

[Chock]

Trust me on this one, it's not the graphics whistles and bells, it's the autogen scenery, you can have that on full tilt in Vista and there is just no way it can do it on XP, either with or without any sort of fancy processing on. Believe me, I wish it were not so, as I much prefer my desktop, but that's the way it is.

Chock

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Chock

Trust me on this one, it's not the graphics whistles and bells, it's the autogen scenery, you can have that on full tilt in Vista and there is just no way it can do it on XP, either with or without any sort of fancy processing on. Believe me, I wish it were not so, as I much prefer my desktop, but that's the way it is.

Chock

Well, MS keeps calling me to go in for another trial of something, so maybe I'll get a free copy of FSX while I'm there next. Don't feel like paying for it. I'll check it out for myself.

I have a laptop with Vista and an x700 in it. I'll compare to the desktop.

-S

[kiwi_2005]

after fiddleing around with Windows Media Centre i would say this is worse than Windows ME and ME was very bad. If i could run Vista on this machine i would but it only has 512ram (intel 2ghz, 9600xt, 40g hdd) so i would be pushing it so winxp it is thats once i overcome the startup beeps problem.

[kiwi_2005]

Oh BTW Vista rocks, the problems ppl have is usually cause there machines aren't up to it.

Anyways look what i found 10 MB drive = $3000 :rotfl:

[JSLTIGER]

Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

Oh BTW Vista rocks, the problems ppl have is usually cause there machines aren't up to it.

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by Javelin

Is it worth it to purchase a new computer system with XP or go with Vista? Will XP hold up for future gaming or is Vista the way to go (for the present time). Would like your thoughts

this explains everything:

:rotfl:

[Reaves]

Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

Oh BTW Vista rocks, the problems ppl have is usually cause there machines aren't up to it.

That's been my experience. All my hardware is Vista ready and when your talking about new games it's flawless.

To say that Vista should run old software perfectly is silly. If you went from 98 to XP you will remember it had the same problems. Games that ran with the DOS background just didn't like NT. To make NT run DOS perfectly would have lessened NT....

I do however have one large problem but that's with Microsoft.

6.1 sound or the lack of it in Vista, you flaming mongrels!!!