Are you a max user? THEN HELP ME!!! pretty please. ;)

JU_88 · 03-05-07, 02:46 PM

Ok im relatively inexperienced with max, Ive only been doing it since June 06, I can make a model in max and I can make the skin in PS, but apply the skin to the model??
Waaaahhhhhh!!!

need to skin the parts in green seperatley...

...and keep all clusters together so i only have 1 TGA not 10

So as the pics would suggest im making the british Boheamath that was the T-class sub for use with SH3 (i hope)
Not the most attractive sub, but at 1500 tons with a 4"deck gun and 11 torpeedo tubes, shes a MONSTER!

Now ideally I want to get the whole skin on one single TGA, but I can live with two TGAs if I must (since the game allows for this.)

Im using UWV unwrap and using standard left/right mapping to get a nice neat cluster for the side of the hull, my question is:

Can i systemactically add clusters to the UWV unwrap tool? Ive got the hull covered, but can I grab the polys for the say ...
..the conning tower or deck and somehow add them to the same template as the hull cluster? to keep them on the same bitmap/TGA??? If so HOW?,
I need step by step -easy to follow -baby instructions on how to do this.

Is this a bad way of doing things? What am I doing wrong? I have two books on max 7 but the tutorials for skinning are totally useless!

Thanks to anyone who can help!! (Ref, Serg, cough, cough!)

Kpt. Kozloff · 03-05-07, 03:17 PM

She's lovely. Reminds me of an elephant seal, kinda...
Great model!

JU_88 · 03-05-07, 04:01 PM

thanks mate

Kpt. Kozloff · 03-05-07, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JU_88

thanks mate

Sorry i can't be more of a help but i'm not a 3D graphics guy. Just wanted to say that you're on to something great.

I'll be looking forward to it's development.

I knew it reminded me of some kind of animal....

HMS Tapir

True seamonster...

P.s. There are so many ship models you'd love to see in a game.... For example i've noticed I-400 in your sig... damn i always wanted this one to be added to GWX.

cobalt · 03-05-07, 04:48 PM

just assign new materials for the green faces

JU_88 · 03-05-07, 05:15 PM

@ colbat can you be more specific??

@everyone 96 views? and no max users

or just few selfish ones ???

03-05-07, 09:00 PM

http://rapidshare.com/files/19618029/unwrapuvw.wmv.html

@JU 88, here is a nice windows media file that helped me greatly
with UV Mapping.

It's 27 megs but worth every byte!!!

cobalt · 03-05-07, 11:21 PM

just use the material editor to assign a new material

select the faces and hit M

zaunkonigII · 03-05-07, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kpt. Kozloff

Quote:

Originally Posted by JU_88

thanks mate

Sorry i can't be more of a help but i'm not a 3D graphics guy. Just wanted to say that you're on to something great.

I'll be looking forward to it's development.

I knew it reminded me of some kind of animal....

HMS Tapir

True seamonster...

P.s. There are so many ship models you'd love to see in a game.... For example i've noticed I-400 in your sig... damn i always wanted this one to be added to GWX.

Mmmm.... I like it! I like it a LOT!

So, is this going to be playable, or what? An XXI alternative?

DivingDuck · 03-06-07, 05:27 AM

Moin,

Quote:

Originally Posted by JU_88

Im using UWV unwrap and using standard left/right mapping to get a nice neat cluster for the side of the hull, my question is:

Can i systemactically add clusters to the UWV unwrap tool? Ive got the hull covered, but can I grab the polys for the say ...
..the conning tower or deck and somehow add them to the same template as the hull cluster? to keep them on the same bitmap/TGA??? If so HOW?,
I need step by step -easy to follow -baby instructions on how to do this.

Is this a bad way of doing things? What am I doing wrong? I have two books on max 7 but the tutorials for skinning are totally useless!

Thanks to anyone who can help!! (Ref, Serg, cough, cough!)

select the boat, then go to subobject level POLYGON or ELEMENT and select all faces/elements you want to map. Then apply the UNWRAP UVW MAP modifier and select EDIT. Now you have only the selected polys on your table to wrap them. If needed you can [Convert Faces to Vertex], that only effects the polys in the UVW Mapping editor. Move the vertices, scale the polys as needed, it does not effect the boat´s model itself.

Regards,
DD

thefretmaster · 03-06-07, 09:38 AM

im not very good at max, but i found if you follow what sh3 does for its skins. the ships use one picture with all the parts you need to skin the ship. do this and assign the polygons to this pic then drag and squew the model outline untill it fits. i dont know if this is what you meant but hope it helps

JU_88 · 03-06-07, 06:56 PM

thanks all, especially privateer, that tutorial was quite helpful.

03-06-07, 08:21 PM

Glad it helped you out.
Sure helped set things straight in my head
after I got past the shakeyness of the person doing
the examples!!!

JU_88 · 03-07-07, 01:54 PM

yeah he sounds like hes about 12 years old

BTW priv - I love your sig, I hope to see your balloons in the GWX update.

thefretmaster · 03-07-07, 02:02 PM

he/she might be 12 but they know what theyre doing

03-05-07, 02:46 PM	#1
JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,803 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Are you a max user? THEN HELP ME!!! pretty please. ;) Ok im relatively inexperienced with max, Ive only been doing it since June 06, I can make a model in max and I can make the skin in PS, but apply the skin to the model?? Waaaahhhhhh!!! need to skin the parts in green seperatley... ...and keep all clusters together so i only have 1 TGA not 10 So as the pics would suggest im making the british Boheamath that was the T-class sub for use with SH3 (i hope) Not the most attractive sub, but at 1500 tons with a 4"deck gun and 11 torpeedo tubes, shes a MONSTER! Now ideally I want to get the whole skin on one single TGA, but I can live with two TGAs if I must (since the game allows for this.) Im using UWV unwrap and using standard left/right mapping to get a nice neat cluster for the side of the hull, my question is: Can i systemactically add clusters to the UWV unwrap tool? Ive got the hull covered, but can I grab the polys for the say ... ..the conning tower or deck and somehow add them to the same template as the hull cluster? to keep them on the same bitmap/TGA??? If so HOW?, I need step by step -easy to follow -baby instructions on how to do this. Is this a bad way of doing things? What am I doing wrong? I have two books on max 7 but the tutorials for skinning are totally useless! Thanks to anyone who can help!! (Ref, Serg, cough, cough!)

03-05-07, 03:17 PM	#2
Kpt. Kozloff Frogman Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Jersey - Channel Islands, UK Posts: 305 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	She's lovely. Reminds me of an elephant seal, kinda... Great model! __________________ GWX1.03/Cmdr2.7/plus all sorts of tweaks

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JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,803 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	@ colbat can you be more specific?? @everyone 96 views? and no max users or just few selfish ones ??? Last edited by JU_88; 03-05-07 at 06:17 PM.

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03-05-07, 04:01 PM	#3
JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,803 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	thanks mate

03-05-07, 04:48 PM	#5
cobalt Commander Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 440 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	just assign new materials for the green faces

03-05-07, 09:00 PM	#7
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	http://rapidshare.com/files/19618029/unwrapuvw.wmv.html @JU 88, here is a nice windows media file that helped me greatly with UV Mapping. It's 27 megs but worth every byte!!!

03-05-07, 11:21 PM	#8
cobalt Commander Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 440 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	just use the material editor to assign a new material select the faces and hit M

03-06-07, 09:38 AM	#11
thefretmaster Officer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: filton england Posts: 246 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	im not very good at max, but i found if you follow what sh3 does for its skins. the ships use one picture with all the parts you need to skin the ship. do this and assign the polygons to this pic then drag and squew the model outline untill it fits. i dont know if this is what you meant but hope it helps

03-06-07, 06:56 PM	#12
JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,803 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	thanks all, especially privateer, that tutorial was quite helpful.

03-06-07, 08:21 PM	#13
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Glad it helped you out. Sure helped set things straight in my head after I got past the shakeyness of the person doing the examples!!!

03-07-07, 01:54 PM	#14
JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,803 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	yeah he sounds like hes about 12 years old BTW priv - I love your sig, I hope to see your balloons in the GWX update.

03-07-07, 02:02 PM	#15
thefretmaster Officer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: filton england Posts: 246 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	he/she might be 12 but they know what theyre doing