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Old 09-18-13, 11:52 PM   #31
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Well, it wasn't in the will, just a crazy lady making it up. Strange about mentally ill people, she pushed for a bill that the kennel wasn't asking for, then they say she went almost demonic when given a cheap bill for all the work. My wife is partners, so they'll have to make a decision on how to handle it. What is sad, with so many responding on FB, I think we easily have homes for all of them now. In fact, we've had several locals just pull up asking for one. Several have called the local news, so that will be interesting as well.

Anyway, my wife has taken two and 3 others have vanished. Course that could be a legal issue, as she gave them away, then took them back after the bill...

Sadly, 1000's of healthy dogs get put down daily at the request of owners. Many think "No Kill" shelters are safe places, but some of the worse, they contract out, my daughter is a vet tech and they get about 100 pets a week from "No-Kills" to put down. Good money for the vet. Sadly, it's between Thanksgiving and Christmas that many healthy dogs get put down, people tend to take vacation, travel.

PETA is far from ethical, probably the biggest animal frauds, yet they take in millions.
"on one side preaching its animal liberation agenda, while on the other signing the death warrant of over 89 percent of pets in its care. It’s beyond hypocritical.”

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/

This was the vets favorite dog, it was found laying on his dead body. It went where he went. The lady replied it was the dog she hated most.
Anyway, it's safe at our home and will stay here.





Just a few responses on FB.

Elizabeth Ekwiy Ameral This is disgusting. I cannot believe that. Sadly, this is totally legal. What horrible person. Facebook shame her! I would refuse to have to her as a client!
about an hour ago via mobile · Unlike · 1

Kali Topp If I didn't already have enough dogs I would definitely take a male crested or two. I know a lady who might be looking for a female soon too. Ugh. I can't believe that crazy lady won't let people take them.
about an hour ago via mobile · Unlike · 1

Julia Crawford-Ingvalson wow the breeders of the xolos would be pissed I imagine. Along with the breeders of the other dogs! Hopefully the vet that is supposed to euthanize them will step in and talk her into giving them away


Bethany English It's too bad your kennel got broken into tonight and those dogs were stolen.... Just sayin
43 minutes ago via mobile · Like · 4

Elizabeth Ekwiy Ameral Seriously if there's any way you can get her to just think rationally I can take as many as three. I have lots of land and have many references you can contact. I am a reputable groomer and I have a heart for animals, maybe its because I'm native, I'd like to think its because I'm human and value life. 619-xxx blue ribbon mobile grooming in San Diego, ca
39 minutes ago via mobile · Like · 1

Lynn Eager Maybe you have time to get the local news channel to cover your story. You have to act on it ASAP.
27 minutes ago · Like · 2


{This one hurts, she works at the kennel and has volunteered many hours for these dogs}

Odee Downing I have been on my knees all night asking for a miracle I love these dogs I loved dale too I never met his wife until today my heart goes out to her I know she is sick too. I have thought about just breaking in to the kennel even though I have keys and taking everyone of those dogs to my house. It's going to be so hard tomorrow walking into my grooming room and seeing them knowing that they may only have a few hours left so sad I just can't stop crying
10 minutes ago via mobile · Like
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Old 09-19-13, 04:59 AM   #32
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Old 09-19-13, 05:57 AM   #33
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Ridiculous legal situation, I hope that something is worked out, but the law can be a real ass, as they say. I remember Mum mentioning a vet that used to work near the shelter she worked at, and he'd get some real idiots come in to have their dogs put to sleep for no real reason other than they'd gotten bored with it, or just didn't want it anymore, and usually they didn't want the body back, so he'd take them into another room, say the job was all done, and then send the dog to the shelter to be rehomed.
I doubt that sort of thing would fly in todays legal society though...
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I doubt that sort of thing would fly in todays legal society though...
I am proud to be 'old fashioned' then.
I don't know how things work elsewhere, but here the law mandates that only the City kennel vet is authorized to put them down. And if the owner has no valid humane reason to have ordered it (terminal illness, prolonged suffering, etc), he is then listed as a 'bad owner' and henceforth not allowed (by law) to adopt any pets ever.
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I wish I could have a dog again, or even a cat. Still, I'm glad to hear that it wasn't in the will. Good luck to them all.
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I am proud to be 'old fashioned' then.
I don't know how things work elsewhere, but here the law mandates that only the City kennel vet is authorized to put them down. And if the owner has no valid humane reason to have ordered it (terminal illness, prolonged suffering, etc), he is then listed as a 'bad owner' and henceforth not allowed (by law) to adopt any pets ever.
Sounds like a good system/set of safeguards
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As of now she hasn't shown up. I think that's a good sign, plus we can charge for another full day for all the dogs after 12 if she does come.
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Sounds like a good system/set of safeguards
I agree, in many instances, the 'old fashioned' ways are the better ways. Don't get me wrong, we've got a lot of good laws in place now to help prevent animal cruelty, but there are so many loopholes and instances where the law doesn't apply or is open to abuse that sometimes you have to wonder which is better.

Anyway, I'll keep my fingers crossed that she doesn't show, Armistead.
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I am proud to be 'old fashioned' then.
I don't know how things work elsewhere, but here the law mandates that only the City kennel vet is authorized to put them down. And if the owner has no valid humane reason to have ordered it (terminal illness, prolonged suffering, etc), he is then listed as a 'bad owner' and henceforth not allowed (by law) to adopt any pets ever.
Glad you guys do that, but not going to happen in America due to the millions of unwanted pets yearly. The cost to care and find homes would be high. The majority of advocacy groups for animals more interested in money.

At the end of every deer hunting season here, 100's of hunting hounds are shot after deer season. The owners won't spend the money to keep them up until the next season, just keep the better ones and find more about a month before deer season. The cost of a bullet much cheaper than the $60 to put one down humanely.

America has many shelters that state they're "no-kill", including most city shelters now, but with stipulations, if a dog shows any aggressive or dysfunctional behavior, signs of illness, they're put down. Many dogs being forced into a kennel need time, but if one growls, acts depressed, it's put down. Many breeds are protective, not a good thing in a shelter. Most no kill shelters, PETA, etc., put down 90% of pets they "rescue"

I hardly know a vet that will give a dog to PETA. They're numerous cases of PETA picking up rescue dogs to save, only to put them down. Several of PETA's rescue managers given the drugs to kill dogs on the road, bag them and put them in dumpsters. This way it doesn't go on PETA's list of dogs they put down. They're a numerous cases of PETA picking up 20 plus dogs, killing them and throwing them in dumpsters.

The best answer is to simply spade your pet.
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Glad you guys do that, but not going to happen in America due to the millions of unwanted pets yearly. The cost to care and find homes would be high. The majority of advocacy groups for animals more interested in money.

At the end of every deer hunting season here, 100's of hunting hounds are shot after deer season. The owners won't spend the money to keep them up until the next season, just keep the better ones and find more about a month before deer season. The cost of a bullet much cheaper than the $60 to put one down humanely.

America has many shelters that state they're "no-kill", including most city shelters now, but with stipulations, if a dog shows any aggressive or dysfunctional behavior, signs of illness, they're put down. Many dogs being forced into a kennel need time, but if one growls, acts depressed, it's put down. Many breeds are protective, not a good thing in a shelter. Most no kill shelters, PETA, etc., put down 90% of pets they "rescue"

I hardly know a vet that will give a dog to PETA. They're numerous cases of PETA picking up rescue dogs to save, only to put them down. Several of PETA's rescue managers given the drugs to kill dogs on the road, bag them and put them in dumpsters. This way it doesn't go on PETA's list of dogs they put down. They're a numerous cases of PETA picking up 20 plus dogs, killing them and throwing them in dumpsters.

The best answer is to simply spade your pet.
At the risk of getting on your bad side, the word is 'spay' or neuter.
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At the risk of getting on your bad side, the word is 'spay' or neuter.

Haha, please don't neuter your dog with a spade.

If people got on my bad side due to my numerous brain farts, I would be very lonely. Heck, even Steve gave up correcting me.
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Haha, please don't neuter your dog with a spade.

If people got on my bad side due to my numerous brain farts, I would be very lonely. Heck, even Steve gave up correcting me.
I neutered a 'coon with a spade once. Does that count as as brain fart?
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The best answer is to simply spade your pet.
The reason the females remained with me was exactly for not being neutered at the time. They are now
Somehow I feel we human beings, because we are rational and aware of the consequences of our actions, should act responsibly towards life on this oasis. We should act like keepers, not hogs.
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Wife called, they came 30 minutes ago, paid bill and picked up the dogs. They boxed then in cardboard shipping boxes, packed them in a truck and off they went. My guess is they will be put down as soon as they get back to the vets office. Damn shame, we had homes for most of them.
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Wife called, they came 30 minutes ago, paid bill and picked up the dogs. They boxed then in cardboard shipping boxes, packed them in a truck and off they went. My guess is they will be put down as soon as they get back to the vets office. Damn shame, we had homes for most of them.
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