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Old 12-15-10, 08:07 PM   #256
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What?! Where did you find this Scandinavia And The World comic? It's not on the SATW site! (http://satwcomic.com/)
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Old 12-15-10, 08:23 PM   #257
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Something is well fishy here. He's agree to an electronic tag, his passport locked down, his location locked down, daily visits to the police, and over 200k in security/bail/whatever it's called, and yet the Swedish prosecution are challenging the decision?
Even fishier now, Sweden says it isn't objecting to bail and it turns out it was the British CPS objecting to the British courts setting bail all along.
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Old 12-15-10, 10:26 PM   #258
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What?! Where did you find this Scandinavia And The World comic? It's not on the SATW site! (http://satwcomic.com/)
It is....... I was just going to post it.
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Old 12-16-10, 03:57 AM   #259
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Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 19:
Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.


German newspaper and European Center for Constitutional and Human Rights have started an initiative against the criminalisation of Wikileaks and have published a public letter attacking the attempts of censorship of the media, and warn against no longer basing on the premise that the people have a right to control their state - not the other way around, and they warn against comanies being given the power to enforce the superiority of economic power over democratic basic principles.

It can be found for example in Der Tagesspiegel, but more and more newspapers as well as the European Center for Constitutional and Human Rights are printing and publishing it as well.


Meanwhile, Openleaks, a clone of Wikileaks, has explained in what they want to differ fromWikileaks: total transparency, informants have thepossibility to determine all by themselves who should be the receiver of their material and Openlaks not influencing that, Open leaks serves as something like a platform of anonymous P.O. Boxes. German article.
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Old 12-16-10, 05:07 AM   #260
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Its refreshing to see such an initiative based on reason and not fear mongering.
Definitely a sign of times that the american press isn't at the front of such an initiative. How far the mighty have fallen. Films such as "The 3 days of the condor" or "All the presidents men" would be anathema in the current political climate.
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Old 12-16-10, 05:55 AM   #261
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It is....... I was just going to post it.
Wasn't at the time of Oberon's post.
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Old 12-16-10, 06:28 AM   #262
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Its refreshing to see such an initiative based on reason and not fear mongering.
Definitely a sign of times that the american press isn't at the front of such an initiative. How far the mighty have fallen. Films such as "The 3 days of the condor" or "All the presidents men" would be anathema in the current political climate.
It'S even more remarkable when considering that Wikileaks and similiar platforms by their mere existence somewhat illustrates the failure of classical newspaper journalism, and are a growing rival/threat to them. That'S why some newspapers seem to deny taking part in that initiative and instead fire another commentary salvo against Wikileaks' "crimes".

Example: German Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung today still has not participated, instead had a feuilleton essay accusing Wikileaks of treachery.

States have no rights to remain secret from their citizens, they have no private sphere, and must be exposed when failing by treacherous acts they commit themselves. The fourth power is failing in its necessary service to democratic state systems when it falls in line with a voluntary obedience to the demands of the state to be protected from its citizens. The state - if being serious about terms like liberty and freedom and democracy, should and must fear its citizens.
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Oh dear, skybird is speaking in support of documents and organisations that he would usually condemn
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Wasn't at the time of Oberon's post.
Exactly.


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Old 12-16-10, 08:07 AM   #265
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Exactly.


...Oberon, can you travel into the future?
Well, there was this one time when me and a friend met a guy called Rufus...

Alternatively, it could be because I know humons Deviantart site


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Julian Assange has been granted bail.
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Old 12-16-10, 09:02 AM   #266
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Julian Assange has been granted bail.
Yup, just heard on Radio2. Now will the Swedish goverment still pursue its extradition in the light of this
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Yup, just heard on Radio2. Now will the Swedish goverment still pursue its extradition in the light of this
I'd say so. Probably a lot of money riding on it.
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Old 12-16-10, 09:24 AM   #268
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The judge said: "That is not the conduct of a person who is seeking to evade justice."
It's about time one of the judges noticed that fact.
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Yup, just heard on Radio2. Now will the Swedish goverment still pursue its extradition in the light of this
The bail has nothing to do with that. It only determines if Assange is remanded on bail or remanded in custody while the extradition process continues
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Old 12-17-10, 06:40 PM   #270
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Assange hints that Wikileaks will release the dirt on Russia's leadership sometime next year. Is he INSANE?!?

Interested in what they have to reveal about Bank of America.
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