North Korean Activity

sonar732 · 10-17-06, 10:27 AM

Multiple news agencies have reported that NPKR has stepped up activity showing another test being prepared for. What's your take?

STEED · 10-17-06, 10:40 AM

My boss was talking about this one today he believes we should bomb those commie b*****ds back to the stone age and then bomb the hell out of China.

I would like too point out he was is a very bad mood.

sonar732 · 10-17-06, 10:48 AM

I'm very concerned with this as it shows that he just doesn't care what the world thinks. What will the embargo or more sanctions do for this situation? Another thing to take into consideration is how China was opposed to boarding NPKR shipping with warships. Will this new test convince China that more needs to be done...just what is the question.

Also, please keep failed policy of this administration and prior administrations out of this discussion...we are focusing on the future handling of NPKR as it's evident both administrations failed in some way.

I'm scarring myself as I'm seeing the independant canidate coming thru.

The Avon Lady · 10-17-06, 10:58 AM

Video: Mark Steyn on North Korea

fredbass · 10-17-06, 11:09 AM

Nice video. Mark Steyn knows his stuff.

STEED · 10-17-06, 11:26 AM

Can anyone sum up the video link, I gave up watching it due to constantly cutting out.

Skybird · 10-17-06, 11:29 AM

All they want is direct talks between the US an NK. I wonder why it is such a festish for the US not to do that. It appears to me as if it would be the most reasonable thing to do. Hell, enemy sides talk to each other even during wars.

Who is winning and loosing what:

the US: during the nineties, especially the S-Korean young ones had growing antipathy against the ongoing presence of US troops in S-Korea. the total rejection of negotiations has led the N-Koreans to loose their mind - a threat that know produces a shift in S-Korean opinion that it now is far more favourable again towards US troops in the country. Good for the US.

China: they have lost a lot of influence on the N-Koreans, still deliver them the food supplies so that people still live a miserable life, but currnetly do longer die during the winters. Chinese policy has lost it's face, and a good ammount of options to act. strategical gains for the US at the cost of the Chinese.

Japan: will be tempted more and more to develope it's own nukes. In the region it is often said that they already are a nuclear power, in the meaning of that an extreme hightech nation like them (as well as other high-developed Western nations) would only need 2-3 months to field their self-developed nuclear weapons. Strategical gains for Japan, the US, losses for China and Russia. I think it is possible that they already have deployed operational nuclear weapons.

We all: feeling and essentialy being strnagled, n-Korea has no other choice than to sell nuclear weapon tech to make some money. forget non-proliferation. Nukes will spread, forst in that region, than beyond. Evern Europe will get it's own nuclear weapons within a forseeable time-frame (not only the French and British ones). No winners, only loosers.

SkvyWvr · 10-19-06, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEED

My boss was talking about this one today he believes we should bomb those commie b*****ds back to the stone age and then bomb the hell out of China.

I would like too point out he was is a very bad mood.

Can you forward my resume to your boss?

TteFAboB · 10-18-06, 12:00 AM

Hehe, it will be a little difficult to sell that one to China.

They'll take anything from us. Our money, our jobs, our economy, our richness, our investments, our choice.

Here's an idea, tell them Europe is making a massive investment along with the US in North Korea. Tell them we're off-shoring our money-vineyard fields there. Then you bet they'll invade and take over the place.

So easy to solve the world's problems here at Subsim.

The Avon Lady · 10-18-06, 12:33 AM

Relevant headlines:

China refuses to search North Korean ships

Defector: Sanctions won't hurt N. Korea, which states "Hwang said China is key to bringing an end to Kim's regime."

Which means back to the drawing board.

bookworm_020 · 10-18-06, 01:01 AM

All I know is it's going to be messy.

I tink the only way it's going to be solved is the removal of Kim Jong Il, but that won't be easy.

The Avon Lady · 10-18-06, 04:17 AM

NK's propaganda art department hard at work.

Fish · 10-18-06, 05:00 AM

We have to read China's hidden agenda. :hmm:

MadMike · 10-18-06, 01:36 PM

Don't be surprised if upcoming N. Korean tests are substantially higher than the purported "fizzle"...

Yours, Mike

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10-17-06, 10:27 AM	#1
sonar732 The Old Man Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Central MO Posts: 1,562 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	North Korean Activity Multiple news agencies have reported that NPKR has stepped up activity showing another test being prepared for. What's your take?

10-17-06, 10:40 AM	#2
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	My boss was talking about this one today he believes we should bomb those commie b*****ds back to the stone age and then bomb the hell out of China. I would like too point out he was is a very bad mood. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

10-17-06, 10:58 AM	#4
The Avon Lady Über Mom Join Date: May 2005 Location: Jerusalem, Israel Posts: 6,147 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Video: Mark Steyn on North Korea __________________ "Victory will come to us from the wombs of our women." - Houari Boumedienne, President of Algeria, Speech before the UN, 1974

10-17-06, 11:26 AM	#6
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Can anyone sum up the video link, I gave up watching it due to constantly cutting out. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

10-17-06, 10:48 AM	#3
sonar732 The Old Man Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Central MO Posts: 1,562 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	I'm very concerned with this as it shows that he just doesn't care what the world thinks. What will the embargo or more sanctions do for this situation? Another thing to take into consideration is how China was opposed to boarding NPKR shipping with warships. Will this new test convince China that more needs to be done...just what is the question. Also, please keep failed policy of this administration and prior administrations out of this discussion...we are focusing on the future handling of NPKR as it's evident both administrations failed in some way. I'm scarring myself as I'm seeing the independant canidate coming thru.

10-17-06, 11:09 AM	#5
fredbass Ace of the Deep Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New Port Richey, Fl, USA Posts: 1,066 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Nice video. Mark Steyn knows his stuff.

10-17-06, 11:29 AM	#7
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,710 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	All they want is direct talks between the US an NK. I wonder why it is such a festish for the US not to do that. It appears to me as if it would be the most reasonable thing to do. Hell, enemy sides talk to each other even during wars. Who is winning and loosing what: the US: during the nineties, especially the S-Korean young ones had growing antipathy against the ongoing presence of US troops in S-Korea. the total rejection of negotiations has led the N-Koreans to loose their mind - a threat that know produces a shift in S-Korean opinion that it now is far more favourable again towards US troops in the country. Good for the US. China: they have lost a lot of influence on the N-Koreans, still deliver them the food supplies so that people still live a miserable life, but currnetly do longer die during the winters. Chinese policy has lost it's face, and a good ammount of options to act. strategical gains for the US at the cost of the Chinese. Japan: will be tempted more and more to develope it's own nukes. In the region it is often said that they already are a nuclear power, in the meaning of that an extreme hightech nation like them (as well as other high-developed Western nations) would only need 2-3 months to field their self-developed nuclear weapons. Strategical gains for Japan, the US, losses for China and Russia. I think it is possible that they already have deployed operational nuclear weapons. We all: feeling and essentialy being strnagled, n-Korea has no other choice than to sell nuclear weapon tech to make some money. forget non-proliferation. Nukes will spread, forst in that region, than beyond. Evern Europe will get it's own nuclear weapons within a forseeable time-frame (not only the French and British ones). No winners, only loosers. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

10-18-06, 12:00 AM	#9
TteFAboB Admiral Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,247 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Hehe, it will be a little difficult to sell that one to China. They'll take anything from us. Our money, our jobs, our economy, our richness, our investments, our choice. Here's an idea, tell them Europe is making a massive investment along with the US in North Korea. Tell them we're off-shoring our money-vineyard fields there. Then you bet they'll invade and take over the place. So easy to solve the world's problems here at Subsim. __________________ "Tout ce qui est exagéré est insignifiant." ("All that is exaggerated is insignificant.") - Talleyrand

10-18-06, 12:33 AM	#10
The Avon Lady Über Mom Join Date: May 2005 Location: Jerusalem, Israel Posts: 6,147 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Relevant headlines: China refuses to search North Korean ships Defector: Sanctions won't hurt N. Korea, which states "Hwang said China is key to bringing an end to Kim's regime." Which means back to the drawing board. __________________ "Victory will come to us from the wombs of our women." - Houari Boumedienne, President of Algeria, Speech before the UN, 1974

10-18-06, 01:01 AM	#11
bookworm_020 Navy Seal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sinking ships off the Australian coast Posts: 5,966 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	All I know is it's going to be messy. I tink the only way it's going to be solved is the removal of Kim Jong Il, but that won't be easy. __________________ "There is always one person in any organization who knows whats going on, That person must be fired"

10-18-06, 04:17 AM	#12
The Avon Lady Über Mom Join Date: May 2005 Location: Jerusalem, Israel Posts: 6,147 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	NK's propaganda art department hard at work. __________________ "Victory will come to us from the wombs of our women." - Houari Boumedienne, President of Algeria, Speech before the UN, 1974

10-18-06, 05:00 AM	#13
Fish Eternal Patrol Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,923 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	We have to read China's hidden agenda. :hmm:

10-18-06, 01:36 PM	#14
MadMike Watch Officer Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 342 Downloads: 241 Uploads: 0	Don't be surprised if upcoming N. Korean tests are substantially higher than the purported "fizzle"... Yours, Mike