French intifada

[Skybird]

http://www.upi.com/InternationalInte...3-083614-1432r

Turf conscious bloggers in Paris' rundown, mostly Muslim, suburban immigrant housing estates rival in violent messages that threaten to beat senseless and even kill any intruder caught in "our ghetto." Almost every word is misspelled, in both argot slang and pidgin French. And these are not empty threats. An average of 14 policemen a day are injured in bloody clashes with jobless youngsters.
France's Interior Ministry said 2,500 police officers had been "wounded" this year.

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The chaotic conditions in suburbs like Clichy-sous-Bois, Montfermeil and St. Denis have grown progressively worse since the nationwide Muslim riots in November 2005 that torched 10,000 vehicles.
Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin recently criticized as "overdrawn" President Bush's frequent reference to the "global war on terror." But the Iraq war did not appear to be part of the combustible mix in Muslim "ghettos" outside Paris. Despair, organized crime, and hatred of authority are its principal ingredients.
For the United States, Islamist extremism is seen as an external problem. For the Europeans, it's internal and far more complex than a war on terrorism. Muslim minorities are spawning rightwing extremism.

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In France, Jean-Marie Le Pen's far right National Front appears to have opted for a can't-lick-'em-join-'em strategy, a rapprochement with France's large immigrant Muslim community -- with undertones of anti-Semitism. Le Pen's reasoning appears to be the recognition that Islamicization is in France to stay with 25 percent of France's under 20 population Muslim (40 percent in some cities), 2nd and 3rd generation North Africans. FN's tough stance on immigration is tempered by support for Arab and Islamist causes in the Middle East (Hamas and Hezbollah are two favorites). There are an estimated 6 to 8 million Muslims among France's 62 million and Islam is now France's second religion. Mosques are well attended on Fridays; churches aren't on Sundays. France's prison inmates are over 50 percent Muslim.

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The metropolitan Paris police tabulated 10 to 12 anti-Jewish incidents per day in the past 30 days throughout the country.

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The French far left has also gone fishing in these troubled Islamic waters. One new leftist political star is Dieudonne M'Bala M'Bala, a hugely popular black comedian who appears to be a Gallic Louis Farrakhan. He dismisses civic educational programs about the Holocaust as "memory pornography." He was recently fined 5,000 Euros for comparing Jews to slave-traders. In a television sketch, he gave a Nazi salute while dressed as an orthodox Jew to denounce what he saw as "fascist Israeli policies."

[The Avon Lady]

We have had an amazing increase in French immigrants over the last 2 years. Oui! Oui!

We're expecting many more.

[Skybird]

Since several years I warn of the growing violence that will emerge (and already is emerging) from the fact that too different people are forced to live in too crowded areas with too little perspectives and too differnt cultural views in suburbian ghettos of European metropoles. Subcultures in such settings tend to breed tribal structures that are territorial, define their own laws and codes of "honour" and get engaged in organized crime. And often I pointed at France, almost predicted riots like that of last autumn and winter, and the current and constant detoriating all over the critical places. I got called a pessimist, and a hate-filled anti-multi-culturalist. But I insoist on describing it as healthy realism only.

Cities in the German Ruhr area maybe are not yet as far as things are escalating in France, but they are on the same course, and I know personally from growing tensions in Berlin, too. This is ignored in Germany, completely, in the meaning of mutli-culturalism and social scientist and community theorist wanting to see their precious theories being victorious. But theory and reality is not necessarily the same thing - as I know from my own studying of psychology, especially social sciences are extremely vulnerable to fall for this self-deceiving folly. - not the only, but one of the reasons that made me giving up psychology.

[TteFAboB]

This is completely ignored and dismissed as anti-Muslim, anti-Islam, anti-multicultural, racism, etc. Basic invertion since it's these Muslims who are anti-infidel, anti-democracy, anti-law, etc.

Will the EU anti-discrimination (terrible name) comission enter these "territories" to work with these yobs? Or when they say that Islam has come to stay, they have these kind of Muslims in mind?

[Skybird]

Anti-discrimination in the meaning of the EU laws mean to tolerate them and show social empathy.

They are immigrants who have a tough life, are misunderstood, faced by a society that does not want them in such high numbers, and they stick to a faith that is totally misunderstood by Europeans. We demand integration, unconditionally, following our laws, dismiss organized crime and street crime as well as isolated sub-cultures, and we do not trust islamic ideology - that qualifies us to be described as racists over here, you know.

[Coda]

I'm not sure who said it or when. This situation just reminds me of it.

"In America we have many rights and freedoms. One of them that anyone can use at any time is the right and freedom to leave."

This could apply to any free country.

If they have it so bad, and the grass is always greener........

[ASWnut101]

....and a few could use that freedom too.

[The Avon Lady]

Meanwhile, back in Francestan........