14-year old girl arrested by agents

[Skybird]

http://www.welt.de/data/2006/10/14/1071835.html

This refers to an article from Friday in the Sacramento Bee, for which i do not have subscribed. A 14-year old girl had participated in a photographic collage of school children, showing Bush with a knife in his hand, and wriotten below was "Kill Bush". short after the site went online, agents of national security appeared in biology lessons and arrestzed her and led her away. During interrogation she did not allow to get intimidated () and insisted on not having planned to assassinate Bush, but wanting to protest against his policy, and that she completely dislike him. she said that she herself were a peace-loving person. the father of her said that while he does not accept a behavior like it was shown by his daughter when writing that subtitle, he also does not accept the behavior of the police and agents, brandmarking their action as exaggerated.

Hm, what was it with news-essages about routinely fingerprinting schoolchildren in Western countries, routinely taking genetic samples of them, and the widening of use of ID chips attached to clothing?

[Coda]

In the US it's against the law to threaten anyones life.

It's against Federal law, the highest and most severe, to threaten the Presidents life. The US Secret Service, tasked with protecting the President, investigates all threats aimed at him.

"Arrested" is a term where the person is being detained. If you are stopped for a traffic violation, your freedom of movement is temporarily suspended, so technically you were "arrested".

It's not like they put her in prison for the threat, which is technically against the law. They just questioned her and investigated the threat. They have to, it's their job.

[goldorak]

Wow so if I say kill Bush I will see hords of secret agents crossing the atlantic and sending me off to guantanamo or even some middle eastern country were i will get tortured ?
That is just another sign that the USA has completely lost its perspective on the modern world and society after the 2001 terrorist attacks.
What about the so called freedom of speech americans are so proud of ?
Arresting and interrogating a 14 year old girl as if she were a terrorist.
What has the world come to ?

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by goldorak

What about the so called freedom of speech americans are so proud of ?

What about it? Still very proud of it.

US freedom of speech laws are not an open license to advocate murder or to shout "fire" in a crowded theater.

I don't have any problems with this incident.

[ASWnut101]

no, if you did that out of country, you wouldn't be "hauled off to gitmo."

but if you are an american citizen, thats the law (what coda said).
You can't threaten ANYBODY'S life here, no matter who it is. just the way it is.

[goldorak]

Give me a break, the little girl wasn't threatening anybody's life.
I'm completely astounded to see people in this thread that consider normal what happened to her.
American reactions are dicated by fear not by rationale.
Its as if the terrorists attacks in 2001 scared a very young nation, and now they have completely lost it.
The american government is lashing out at anybody under the impulse of fear.

[TteFAboB]

She got what she asked for. In her conception of the world, the opposition does not exist: it must be killed, eliminated, erradicated. Anybody who disagrees with this girl should be put to the knife. She does not guarantee the right of freedom of expression to anybody else but her.

I expect to hear from her again in 20 years or so, after she converts to Islam since Al-Qaeda probably has just found the replacement for Azzam the American.

Now, I guess she's being used as an example, or are they going after every kill Bush website owner out there? I expect her to be released with no charges, if the SS decides to take further action, then I'll have to start sending letters and e-mails daily to them pointing at CAIR & Friends where real assassins and terrorists can be found. These are currently walking free on the streets next to thousands of 14 year old girls.

I'd like to see the rest of the collages too and similar projects elsewhere, it would be extremely unfair if this is the outcome of a demented Arts & Crafts teacher.

Anyway, in my opinion the government, SS included, should stay far away from any school. The concern should be with the teachers who incite hatred or turn the classrooms into re-education camps. The rest of society can take care of the rest of it, thank you very much, no need for the state to interfere.

[Sea Demon]

The Secret Service has been tasked to do these kind of investigations for decades. I don't know why it's such a shock now. I can only guess why it's being highlighted now however.

[IceGrog]

US freedom of speech comes with costs, one of the costs is one stills needs to follow the law. As others have already said, here in the USA it’s against the law to threaten someone’s life.
“Give me a break, the little girl wasn't threatening anybody's life.” Again our country is one of laws, if it lets one get away with breaking the law then all would have the right to say why can’t I get away with it.

“I'm completely astounded to see people in this thread that consider normal what happened to her.” You make it sound like they took her out side and had her shot

I have more to say but some of you have already said it better.

[cobalt]

Originally Posted by TteFAboB

She got what she asked for. In her conception of the world, the opposition does not exist: it must be killed, eliminated, erradicated. Anybody who disagrees with this girl should be put to the knife. She does not guarantee the right of freedom of expression to anybody else but her.

I expect to hear from her again in 20 years or so, after she converts to Islam since Al-Qaeda probably has just found the replacement for Azzam the American.

I don't even think I have to explain myself.

[VON_CAPO]

Originally Posted by cobalt

I don't even think I have to explain myself.

, This people is amazing.
I am not sure what to think, if I am posting in a nest of rightists, or; if they need to travel around the world, to know what is going on outside their home. :hmm::hmm::hmm:

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by VON_CAPO

, This people is amazing.
I am not sure what to think, if I am posting in a nest of rightists, or, they need to travel around the world to know what is going on. :hmm::hmm::hmm:

Have you been to the USA, Von Capo? I've been to Europe. In fact, I've lived there when I was stationed in Germany. I know PC madness and authoritarian policies when I see it.

I suggest you get your passport ready and get educated yourself.

[VON_CAPO]

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

Have you been to the USA, Von Capo? I've been to Europe. In fact, I've lived there when I was stationed in Germany. I know PC madness and authoritarian policies when I see it.

I suggest you get your passport ready and get educated yourself.

Demon, I have a high consideration about you.

But, to live in USA is not necessary to know what is correct and what is absurd.
By the way, I had travel many, many miles across your country, I had been in many States and visited many veteran legions.

And this replay is broadcasted from NYC (FYI).

So, I must dismiss your suggestion.

[TteFAboB]

Originally Posted by cobalt

You sir, are a moron. I don't even think I have to explain myself.

Thank you. You don't have to explain yourself, it's the girl that has to do the talking. I'll just be a moron here and sit with the Father of the girl who also seems to disagree with her catch phrase.

[VON_CAPO]

My dear fellows.
I will have a dinner with a nice lady tonight.
I enjoyed this afternoon with you.
Keep this thread alive.
Good nite.