Historical Accuracy in NYGM TW 2.2

[Einsman]

Hi!

Is there historical accuracy in NYGM TW 2.2 when we choose an IXB in Wilmshaven's base in the year 1939?

I do this question because in the Mod Grey Wolves this election is not possible.

Which is the criterion to be able to do it in this mod?

Pardon for my poor english.

[kylania]

Well, the 14 IXB's built were all constructed during those years and assigned to 2nd Flotilla in Wilhelmshaven. However, other than U-64 (entered training on 16th Dec, '39) they all entered training and frontboat status during 1940.

However, according to the copy of Flotilla.cfg from my install of NYGM 2.2, it shows the IXB should only be available from Oct '40 onwards?

[Sailor Steve]

SH3 Commander allows IXBs in Wilhelmshaven in October '39, and I think this was done based on research by Beery. I don't know enough to argue the reality, but that's what's available outside of NYGM.

[CCIP]

Yes, the first IXB was commissioned in december 1939. It should also be noted that several IXA boats which shared most features with IXB and are not modeled in SHIII were already in service by the start of the war.


Otherwise, I don't see it as a serious inaccuracy, even if U-64 technically didn't sail on combat patrol until March '39. Not a great discrepancy in the wider scope of things.

And oh, yes, I do believe this is more SH3 commander than NYGM

[Cpt.Thorne]

From Uboat.net

U-38

Type

IX

Laid down15 Apr, 1937AG Weser, BremenCommissioned24 Oct, 1938Kptlt. Heinrich Liebe (Knights Cross/Oak Leaves)Commanders24 Oct, 1938 - 22 Jul, 1941 Kptlt. Heinrich Liebe (Knights Cross)15 Jul, 1941 - 6 Jan, 1942 Heinrich Schuch1943 - 1943 Oblt. Ludo Kregelin (in deputize) -- acting5 Jan, 1943 - 22 Aug, 1943 Helmut Laubert23 Aug, 1943 - 14 Dec, 1943 Oblt. Paul Sander16 Dec, 1943 - Dec, 1943 Goske von MöllendorffJan, 1944 - 14 Apr, 1944 Oblt. Herbert Kühn15 Apr, 1944 - 5 May, 1945 KrvKpt. Georg PetersCareer11 patrols24 Oct, 1938 - 31 Aug, 1939 6. Flottille (front boat)
1 Sep, 1939 - 31 Dec, 1939 6. Flottille (front boat)
1 Jan, 1940 - 30 Nov, 1941 2. Flottille (front boat)
1 Dec, 1941 - 31 Mar, 1942 24. Flottille (training)
1 Apr, 1942 - 30 Nov, 1943 21. Flottille (school boat)
1 Dec, 1943 - 28 Feb, 1945 4. Flottille (trial boat)(eb)
1 Mar, 1945 - 5 May, 1945 5. Flottille (trial boat)(eb)
Successes35 ships sunk for a total of 188.967 GRT
1 ship damaged for a total of 3.670 GRTFateScuttled 5 May, 1945 west of Wesermünde in position 53.34N, 08.32E, broken up in 1948.

U-39

Type

IX

Laid down2 Jun, 1937AG Weser, BremenCommissioned10 Dec, 1938Kptlt. Gerhard GlattesCommanders10 Dec, 1938 - 14 Sep, 1939 Gerhard GlattesCareer1 patrol10 Dec, 1938 - 31 Aug, 1939 6. Flottille (front boat)
1 Sep, 1939 - 14 Sep, 1939 6. Flottille (front boat)
SuccessesNo ships sunk or damagedFateSunk 14 Sept, 1939 north-west of Ireland, in position 58.32N, 11.49W, by depth charges from the British destroyers HMS Faulknor, HMS Foxhound and HMS Firedrake. 44 survivors (No casualties).

U-39 was the first U-boat sunk in the war, after an unsuccessful attack against the British aircraft carrier HMS Ark Royal (premature magnetic-pistol torpedo explosions).

U-40

Type

IX

Laid down1 Jul, 1937AG Weser, BremenCommissioned11 Feb, 1939Kptlt. Werner von SchmidtCommanders11 Feb, 1939 - 20 Sep, 1939 Werner von Schmidt21 Sep, 1939 - 13 Oct, 1939 Kptlt. Wolfgang BartenCareer2 patrols11 Feb, 1939 - 31 Aug, 1939 6. Flottille (front boat)
1 Sep, 1939 - 13 Oct, 1939 6. Flottille (front boat)
SuccessesNo ships sunk or damagedFateSunk 13 Oct, 1939 in the English Channel, in position 50.41,6N, 00.15,1E, by mines. 45 dead and 3 survivors.

U-64

Type

IXB

Laid down15 Dec, 1938AG Weser, BremenCommissioned16 Dec, 1939Kptlt. Georg-Wilhelm Schulz (Knights Cross)Commanders16 Dec, 1939 - 13 Apr, 1940 Kptlt. Georg-Wilhelm Schulz (Knights Cross)Career1 patrol16 Dec, 1939 - 31 Mar, 1940 2. Flottille (training)
1 Apr, 1940 - 13 Apr, 1940 2. Flottille (front boat)
SuccessesNo ships sunk or damagedFateSunk 13 April, 1940 in the Herjangsfjord near Narvik, Norway, in approximate position 68.29N, 17.30E, by a bomb from a Swordfish aircraft L 9767 carried on the British battleship HMS Warspite. 8 dead and 38 survivors.


go and see uboat.net for more info.
Cheers

[SubConscious]

Did you notice that while you can get an IXB in 1939 that it will take 120 days to commission the boat (at least according to my game screen)? This puts you in early 1940, which is very reasonable.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by CCIP

even if U-64 technically didn't sail on combat patrol until March '39.

I want THAT one!!!:rotfl:

Originally Posted by SubConscious

Did you notice that while you can get an IXB in 1939 that it will take 120 days to commission the boat (at least according to my game screen)? This puts you in early 1940, which is very reasonable.

But you're talking about buying one. With Commander you can start with one in October.

[Einsman]

Hi!

My question is the following one.

Is it possible to modify in this mod some parameter, in order that only it(he,she) shows the boot when it's is available and not before?

Thank you