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10-04-06, 09:12 PM
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Ocean Warrior
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Russia objects to Nato expansion
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10-04-06, 09:14 PM
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Ocean Warrior
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10-04-06, 11:04 PM
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The Old Man
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Welcome back Comrade Putin.
How is the Motherland? 
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10-05-06, 02:50 AM
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Navy Seal
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Fair point, why does NATO need to expand? There are other ways and treating Russia like the bad boy doesn't help. You see it end up as a self fulfilling prophecy.
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10-05-06, 03:24 AM
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Of course, there are at least 2 opinions here as to who is the victim here. Here's another question: why does Russia care if NATO expands to include at least 2 states that have been badgered by Russia for years to cowtow to Russia's whims? Never mind. Question answered.
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10-05-06, 03:45 AM
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Grey Wolf
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i love reading the Avon Ladys responses. To the point and always clear. She says what she feels no matter how harsh! Are you really female!? :rotfl:
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10-05-06, 09:41 AM
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Admiral
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Who said I want Georgia in NATO? Sure, Ukraine can come, but Georgia?
For all I care Russia and Georgia deserve each other equally. Of course, since I'm not a General or anything, it doesn't matter what I want or not. 
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10-05-06, 09:51 AM
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10-05-06, 09:55 AM
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I think Russia fears its options diminish, that is why it does not like NATO encroaching on its neighbours. With NATO there is no more coercion like what we see being done to Georgia. In this situation Georgia is in a kind of Neville vs Hitler situation. No matter what Georgia does or doesn't do it will be irrelevant as Russia prepares to take the steps it believes are necessary.
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Admiral
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10-05-06, 06:11 PM
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The Old Man
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Can anyone please tell me what government Russia is now operated by since Putin now has absolute control of both the military and the public media?
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10-06-06, 05:56 AM
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Lucky Jack
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The government of Deja Vu?
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