Nukes - Defcon

[porphy]

Hi

Anyone interested in the new game Defcon from the makers of Uplink and Darwinia? IGN seems to like it. Got to like the layout and grand style strategy theme. Still they don't say if you acctually can win this game... :hmm: If you missed the ICBM in DW or SC, now you can have the full galore...!

http://pc.ign.com/articles/732/732711p1.html

Cheers Porphy

[Oberon]

"Would you like to play a game of global thermonuclear war...?"


Needless to say, this will be one I'm getting

[jumpy]

I like the looks of this seems more like what I wanted to get out of Hearts of Iron II: Doomsday...
Friday 29th September 2006, at 6.00pm GMT
Apparently it will only cost a tenner??

[porphy]

Ordered the game today. 9 days left and then the real countdown starts... Time to dig that shelter in your garden... Good thing that part is covered in the manual.

Cheers Porphy

[Pants]

just aslong as you guys dont accidently hack into WOPR

[Rhodes]

Originally Posted by Pants

just aslong as you guys dont accidently hack into WOPR

eheheheh, and if "joshua" call them by telephone?...

[Terrax]

Played the demo, was quite pleased with my tactics... until the whole west coast got nuked. I like it!!!

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Terrax

Played the demo, was quite pleased with my tactics... until the whole west coast got nuked. I like it!!!

Yeah - the CPU is rather lacking. This is what I did to China:

-S

PS. How can they say no one wins? This is a clear win to me.

[Respenus]

When over 1 billion people will play the game, people will star felling stange. But then it will be too late. BUT WHAT THE HECK!!! You can only nuke Russia a couple thousand times before it's too late, why waste time posting here

[NeonSamurai]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Yeah - the CPU is rather lacking. This is what I did to China:

-S

PS. How can they say no one wins? This is a clear win to me.

Simple, the massive amounts of radiation now floating in the air will probably kill most life on the planet, not to mention with all those explosions there is a decent chance you have knocked the planet off its orbit.. So even though you won, you still lost

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by NeonSamurai

Simple, the massive amounts of radiation now floating in the air will probably kill most life on the planet, not to mention with all those explosions there is a decent chance you have knocked the planet off its orbit.. So even though you won, you still lost

The radiation will blow out and raise the rad level for a bit. So what. You know how many bombs have been exploded already???

Anyway, I think the hypothesis of knocking the planet off orbit is a little off the mark too. That hypothesis has already been disproven by NASA and the original plan to use nukes to knock an asteroid off orbit - it won't work. The only way might be to blow the nuke off from a distance of the asteroid, but with nukes, that is not how they will be employed, except in an EMP type explosion.

A single comet hitting the planet produces more yeild than all the worlds bombs, and this is a directed hit too, yet the Earth is still in orbit after being hit with even larger objects.

So, rads will be a little higher and the weak might fall to it, but the strong will survive another day! :p

[NeonSamurai]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

The radiation will blow out and raise the rad level for a bit. So what. You know how many bombs have been exploded already???

Anyway, I think the hypothesis of knocking the planet off orbit is a little off the mark too. That hypothesis has already been disproven by NASA and the original plan to use nukes to knock an asteroid off orbit - it won't work. The only way might be to blow the nuke off from a distance of the asteroid, but with nukes, that is not how they will be employed, except in an EMP type explosion.

A single comet hitting the planet produces more yeild than all the worlds bombs, and this is a directed hit too, yet the Earth is still in orbit after being hit with even larger objects.

So, rads will be a little higher and the weak might fall to it, but the strong will survive another day! :p

Actualy your comparing apples and oranges, the NASA plan with nukes and asteroids the reason why they are largely discarding it is because of the different types of asteroids in space, from mostly metalic ones to spongy fragile rock ones. With a heavy metalic asteroid a nuke deflection would likely work as the asteroid is likely strong enough to take the blast and not shatter, the other kinds of asteroids would just break up and still mostly hit the planet, which is pretty much just as bad. Detonating a large number of high yeild nukes in one general area of the planet though could cause changes in the planet's orbit or rotation or the orientation of its axis, at least theoreticly.

As for the amount of radiation spread, well look at chernoble and the amount of radioactive material it spread, now imagine several hundred 100 mega ton nukes detonating in the span of a day or 2, and the ensuing nuclear winter, which would likely bring about not only massive radiation across the planet, but would also bring at first high amounts of global warming (from the radioactive debris cloud in the air traping in heat) which would cause all kinds of reactions, from the water level rising, to many parts of the world going arid, not to mention massive changes in the dynamics of weather and wind patterns. After this the planet would then face an ice age (as the blanket of radioactive materials started to block out heat and light). In otherwords exactly what happened to the dinosaurs but with lots of radiation to go with it.

Lastly as for the number of nukes detonated, well most were not high yield, most of the large ones were also contained (underground tests) or in space. Compared with the full out onslaught of 2 super powers fighting a nuke war, the radiation produced by the tests is insignificant by comparison.